Zetas

 

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO

Date: 05-09-95 (09:34)             Number: 6172

From: MONICA JESENSKY              Refer#: 911

  To: WALTER BARTOO                 Recvd: NO 

Subj: Zeta's                         Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I

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Walter :

 

 WB> Well, here's my ideas on it. In this date and time there are many

 WB> Nancies out there, and also plenty of guys having contact. What I'm

 WB> doing is assembling the best exchanges into a group sharing situ-

 WB> ation. From it, it is hoped we can understand everything better.

 

I can understand that this is indeed what you are doing Walt.

 

 WB> In other words the teams forming and already doing what her

 WB> Zetas refused to do.

 

Actually if she indeed has a true alien group speaking to her it is not

the service to others as she calls them, but rather the service to self

group that I believe is even trying to deceive her. They are the group

which is seeking the DNA RNA infusion for their own race, and do not in

fact seek to help us in any way.

 

 WB> Somewhere in all this there maybe Little Greys.

 

Read the above.

 

 WB> I can certainly see the Hive Mentality built nicely into our society.

 WB> It's a great way to maintain order and get things done. BUT! There's

 WB> always those who do not fit in this type situation. This type looks

 WB> at it, independent of it. In doing analizes how and why it works.

 WB> I'm one of these.

 

Are you familiar with the Star Trek episode with the race known as the

Borg? The 3 ft version of the Zetan as well as the 6 foot version of the

grey zetan both have this same or like structure without any mechanical

structure behind it. What I find interesting is that implantees find no

way to say what they have seen or experienced in many cases so they in

another way express what they have seen. They write science fiction of

which closely resembles what is true.

 

 WB> You might say I'm the deprogramer of a programed society. So I look

 WB> at everything this way. This includes my part in ET, and how I allow

 WB> it to effect my life. Never saw to my knowledge of memory a grey!

 

Then what does the below quote mean? Were you saying it was not a grey?

 

 WB> I saw a six foot version in a suit once that looks awful human to me.

 

 WB> Yes and no. It was sooo human it to me was human. Origins mean

 WB> nothing if we equate things to what we want to believe. Humans go

 WB> beyond this planet, but I can only equate their part as humans from

 WB> Earth till one gives me reason to think otherwise. The Earth tech-

 WB> nology I'm aware of indicates and validates the phenomena as being

 WB> ours, and in use.

 

There are definite humanoid beings from other planets in contact here.

The inteesting thing is that the negative forces are telling Terrans

that they are here as emoisaries of a galactic police or agency for

Peace. It is not the case. If you seek the true emisaries then seek

out a true Sasquatch or a Nord. Most of the others are with the greys.

 

 WB> Many groups are inplanting humans. This includes Uncle Sam.

 

I am aware of this factor Walter.

 

 WB> Disk Duty has been verified by abductees who are

 WB> capable of stubbornly over riding the mind control used.

 WB> They and myself realise the government is involved.

 

As it should be it seems that the emergence has begun. Many is the

person whom has been approached with their own codes. My contact

(which chooses when and where to leave me help) is a Nordic. Some

folks are finding the help of the sensitives of our own planet (by

this I refer to the Sasquatch. Unlike most believe they can make

themselves appear as human as any other Terran .. all they need to

do is shave their extranious hair which shows and cover over the

rest.

 

 WB> Many are present here who are implanted! If you have seen a UFO

 WB> chances are things errased from memory have gone on.

 

I was not physically implanted but rather given a coded command to

forget which was overridden by my contact.

 

 WB> First visit or contact implants the recipent of the remembered

 WB> or errased experience. Indepth deep programming can be done

 WB> quickly and have a life long influence, within hours I'm told.

 

Even in less time if it is done right.

 

 WB> To be honest my latest research into this is ongoing with an

 WB> intelligent new bee to all this, over educated and hard to

 WB> follow. However in another light new things are coming out.

 WB> It's what I do.

 

As do I in my own way.

 

Monica

 

--- Maximus 2.02

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO

Date: 05-09-95 (09:34)             Number: 6173

From: MONICA JESENSKY              Refer#: NONE

  To: WALTER BARTOO                 Recvd: NO 

Subj: Zeta's - 1 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I

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Walter :

 

 WB> Hi Monica: I'd like to explain that not everyone having contact is

 WB> stable enough to interact with those who are working to find the

 WB> truth in the ongoing mystery behind everything going on in Et analy-

 WB> sis. The bottom line in good research is evaluation in whether or not

 WB> the person is blocked, messed with to the degree of inducing fear

 WB> and denial, where safety measure discounts any worthwhile exchange.

 

I understand this situation. Furthermore, I know personally a person whom

was experimented on as such by the military and whom was caused to speak

to me by my same Nord contact. He has told me that I should keep in a

direct field of contact with her. He did not get enough of the code to

override her programming. However, he did get enough of it to let her

briefly remember parts of it and speak with me on the matters. On some

occasions we have had a mental link and I have seen images of some of the

underground labs she has been in. She lives in a constant fear not of the

aliens she met there, but rather of the United States Government. She has

been implanted with a mental command which has caused her body to react

when she speaks. She constantly has a bladder incontinance as a direct

result of her programming. Imahes I have seen in past contacts showed a

vast underground layout in which there are many chambers. Only those of

which were either higher up military, CIA, or those whom were ordered to

submit to experiments were allowed into these chambers. There were long

ladder lined corriders which went down from the upper base which looked

like a Star Trek inner hull ships maintenance tunnel. These led down to

huge inner chambers which were made of a gleeming metal which seemed to

have it's own inner light. It seemed to be of a metal never seen here on

Earth. at the end of this tunnel there were two chambers one went to a

military side of the chmbers and one went down even further below to a

second lower level which contained many odd symbols and two more chambers.

When I told her that I was seeing these images she then immediately

thought of something else. The next time I was able to get her to think

of these chambers (albeit briefly) she had indeed seen the replication

chambers which contained not only grey beings and hybrids in the large

vats and tubes, but also many other races being hybridized as well. These

included Reptilian and Arachnid races, as well as some race that looked

like it was built of stone like material close to an asbestoid like

substance. It was in a yellow liquid. The Reptilian forms were in a

liquid that was greenish. The greys were in both yellow and clear forms

of liquids. There were also many body parts which looked like humanoid

Terrans. The images were very strong and as well were her emotional

responces to them. She was retching metally when she saw  these back

when she was in the military. When I asked her about these, she simply

replied that I best be silent as she believed that our phone line was

being monitored by the US Military. At that point she said she was

seeing images of short supposedly friendly Greys of which she claimed

she sees often. She often tells me that she sees bright lights in her

domicile and further that her television occasionally seems to have a

face on it watching her while the set is in fact turned off and that

when she looks up to try to see whom it is that the image vanishes. My

contact has confirme that she is indeed being watched and that she is

not to be asked further to relate her experiences of the chamber because

she risks removal not only by the US Governmment, but also moreso by the

Sheikeila .. the Military of the Grey race who, are the 6 ft greys.

 

 WB> Abuse in these encounters bring out many types of, memory blocks, and

 WB> defense mechanisms, that are not safe in pursuing because of the

 WB> nature of their programming.

 

Such as physical problems that develop due to programmed in defenses to

the party remembering things without the code to restore full memory as

well as the ability to override the code itself and in effect erase it

and the ability to be further programmed.

 

 WB> If a researcher prods these defense mechanisms and finds a way past

 WB> them there is a real possiblity the person putting them up might

 WB> loose their anchor to dealing with the situation in any way they can

 WB> then handle.

 

Correct you are. Where did you become so knowledgeable my friend? Were you

military FBI or CIA. I amm starting to truly wonder. Be careful with what

you know if you are not yourself a CIA or FBI with contacts you risk the

rath of the Sheikeila. if you indeed have a protector stay close with that

being. I should not like to see or rather hear that you have suddenly be-

come missing.

 

 WB> There can be many maligned unintentional outcomes to this type indiv-

 WB> idual surfacing that can be self distructive and can carry over to the

 WB> investigater.. In doing research I've found through many contacts

 WB> there are some best left alone.

 

Particularly those risking the rath of the Sheikeila.

 

[continued next message]

 

--- Maximus 2.02

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO

Date: 05-12-95 (01:25)             Number: 6392

From: WALTER BARTOO                Refer#: 6391

  To: MONICA JESENSKY               Recvd: NO 

Subj: Zeta's - 1 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I

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 > Walter :

 

 >  WB> Hi Monica: I'd like to explain that not everyone having contact is

 >  WB> stable enough to interact with those who are working to find the

 >  WB> truth in the ongoing mystery behind everything going on in Et analy-

 >  WB> sis. The bottom line in good research is evaluation in whether or not

 >  WB> the person is blocked, messed with to the degree of inducing fear

 >  WB> and denial, where safety measure discounts any worthwhile exchange.

 

 > I understand this situation. Furthermore, I know personally a person

 > whom was experimented on as such by the military and whom was caused to

 > speak to me by my same Nord contact. He has told me that I should keep in a

 > direct field of contact with her. He did not get enough of the code

 > to override her programming. However, he did get enough of it to let her

 > briefly remember parts of it and speak with me on the matters. On

 > some occasions we have had a mental link and I have seen images of some of

 > the underground labs she has been in. She lives in a constant fear not of

 > the aliens she met there, but rather of the United States Government. She

 > has been implanted with a mental command which has caused her body to

 > react when she speaks. She constantly has a bladder incontinance as a

 > direct result of her programming. Images I have seen in past contacts

showed

 > a vast underground layout in which there are many chambers. Only those

 > of which were either higher up military, CIA, or those whom were ordered

 > to submit to experiments were allowed into these chambers. There were

 > long ladder lined corriders which went down from the upper base which

 > looked like a Star Trek inner hull ships maintenance tunnel. These led down

 > to huge inner chambers which were made of a gleeming metal which seemed

 > to have it's own inner light. It seemed to be of a metal never seen here

 > on Earth. at the end of this tunnel there were two chambers one went to

 > a military side of the chmbers and one went down even further below to

 > a second lower level which contained many odd symbols and two more

 > chambers.

 > When I told her that I was seeing these images she then immediately

 > thought of something else. The next time I was able to get her to

 > think of these chambers (albeit briefly) she had indeed seen the

 > replication chambers which contained not only grey beings and hybrids in

the

 > large vats and tubes, but also many other races being hybridized as well.

 > These included Reptilian and Arachnid races, as well as some race that

 > looked like it was built of stone like material close to an asbestoid like

 > substance. It was in a yellow liquid. The Reptilian forms were in a

 > liquid that was greenish. The greys were in both yellow and clear

 > forms of liquids. There were also many body parts which looked like

 > humanoid Terrans. The images were very strong and as well were her

emotional

 > responces to them. She was retching metally when she saw  these back

 > when she was in the military. When I asked her about these, she

 > simply replied that I best be silent as she believed that our phone line

was

 > being monitored by the US Military. At that point she said she was

 > seeing images of short supposedly friendly Greys of which she claimed

 > she sees often. She often tells me that she sees bright lights in her

 > domicile and further that her television occasionally seems to have a

 > face on it watching her while the set is in fact turned off and that

 > when she looks up to try to see whom it is that the image vanishes.

 > My contact has confirmed that she is indeed being watched and that she is

 > not to be asked further to relate her experiences of the chamber

 > because she risks removal not only by the US Governmment, but also moreso

by

 > the Sheikeila .. the Military of the Grey race who, are the 6 ft greys.

 

 >  WB> Abuse in these encounters bring out many types of, memory blocks, and

 >  WB> defense mechanisms, that are not safe in pursuing because of the

 >  WB> nature of their programming.

 

 > Such as physical problems that develop due to programmed in defenses

 > to the party remembering things without the code to restore full memory

 > as well as the ability to override the code itself and in effect erase

 > it and the ability to be further programmed.

 

 >  WB> If a researcher prods these defense mechanisms and finds a way past

 >  WB> them there is a real possiblity the person putting them up might

 >  WB> loose their anchor to dealing with the situation in any way they can

 >  WB> then handle.

 

 > Correct you are. Where did you become so knowledgeable my friend?

 > Were you military, FBI or CIA. I amm starting to truly wonder. Be careful

 > with what you know if you are not yourself a CIA or FBI with contacts you

 > risk the rath of the Sheikeila. if you indeed have a protector stay close

 > with that being. I should not like to see or rather hear that you have

suddenly

 > become missing.

 

(WB) Not CIA, FBI, Government, or military. Am a Star Person of high rank,

getting things put right. Are you a Hypnotist, or a therapist? No fear here I'

m well capable of holding my own. Many attempts in the past have failed. My

lady and I live free of any fear. Doing a newsletter, moderator here, and

other things to lengthly to list. If I get to know you better we can share,

ok? Your turn to call, and the mountains are bueatiful in summer. We receive

many guests and have accomodations. Big Pyramid too, activated also.

 

 >  WB> There can be many maligned unintentional outcomes to this type indiv-

 >  WB> idual surfacing that can be self distructive and can carry over to the

 >  WB> investigater.. In doing research I've found through many contacts

 >  WB> there are some best left alone.

 

 > Particularly those risking the rath of the Sheikeila.

 

(WB) A good battle keeps your arteries clear, excercise is good therapy.

If the six foot grey was a Sheikeila he did not stick around long enough to

be interegated by me with my survivial knife. Actually the exit was a speedy

one, with a oops filtering back as I jumped up.

 

regards Walter <AKA> Kortron.

 

 > [continued next message]

 

 > --- Maximus 2.02

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 > (1:142/578)

 

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO

Date: 05-09-95 (09:34)             Number: 6174

From: MONICA JESENSKY              Refer#: 6173

  To: WALTER BARTOO                 Recvd: NO 

Subj: Zeta's - 2 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I

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[continued from last mesage]

 

 WB> Reason being it only brings out further denial, and creates false

 WB> situations that then serve no worth while reason for either party to

 WB> continue. Much of this is because the mind substitutes for what it

 WB> cannot accept, that then recreates what it can. Abuse, Rape and a

 WB> very long list here occurs in these situations that are better left

 WB> alone. Individuals that put out the classic warning signs in the

 WB> field of experiencers are best left alone, leaving them to go on be-

 WB> lieving what they want to believe. The Zeta responces were a firm

 WB> indication of this classic responce and indicated that she was not

 WB> ready to accept anything beyond her self created idea of what she

 WB> experienced and why.

 

I see you see the same conclusion that I see here. Also let us think of

the many with MPD which are actually the result of military and alien

mental traumatizations.

 

 WB> Im dealing with other folks creating substantiated phenomena I can see

 WB> that prove to me and verify what they are relating to me is real. Her

 WB> stuff is for followers not yet seeing things going not verifiable be-

 WB> yond her abduction, verifying anything. The tests I set up are hard

 WB> to fake. You cannot fake them! These are the folks that most interest

 WB> me. She is the type I stir away from. They lurk here on this echo and

 WB> can't relate to any of this beyond the victim. I've tried to work

 WB> past this condition with some, it seldom goes anywhere and I under-

 WB> stand they are blocked and not easily reached to understand what they

 WB> have actually experienced. This situation at best should never be

 WB> dealt with in this medium as the means in anyway to help them. Reason

 WB> being they fixate on the negative, remain the victim and live in con-

 WB> stant denial of everyone who questions their experience.

 

This is all true in what I have experienced with folks as well.

 

 WB> This is the only way they can deal with it. You cannot get past this

 WB> on a computer typing to someone, or see the ifs, ands and buts clear-

 WB> ly. The best experiencer is the one who can deal with whatever occur-

 WB> ed and is less traumatized by it, that can objectively look at it

 WB> without need of blocks of memory, or fear welling up and or creating

 WB> paranoia.

 

Yes and Nancy clearly refuses to have direct contact with people as do

many others.

 

 WB> My research indicates programming is layered and difficult to work

 WB> through.

 

Here is a clue...Usually it is a part of a phrase followed by a partially

binary and partially hex code which is then followed by a continuation or

ending of the phrase. This is how the codes are usually implemented. These

codes have many permutations. A partial code in the wrong spot can cause

anything from physical debilitations to complete self destruct modes. I

can attest to a few folks I have met that were coded. Many now exist in

Psych hospitals. If you want to find the result of military blunders at

trying to deprogram what was programmed in during visits to the military

alien labs, then check out many of the GI's whom were returned from war

in Vietnam only to end up in Nut houses. Many of these were programmed

with a code to go into Kill mode. However there were further permutations

to the codes which in my opinion were alien code permutations which causes

a section of the subconscious mind to not allow these codes to be erased

without use of the mutated code segments entered by the alien contacts to

change after a singal usage. I believe that the persons are to be used when

the Greys make their true reasons for being here public. I know that these

codes can be activated with high band signals above the conscious mind

to hear. Furthermore these codes cause the adrenal glands to secrete at a

very high rate.

 

 WB> Mistakes can cause more truama and even suicide.

 

Ah yes just as I said above.

 

 WB> Not being an expert I walk softly and do not dwell too deeply till

 WB> the trust bond is firmly rooted and established. Then it's better

 WB> to interact as a group sharing experiences and information rather

 WB> than one on one.

 

In many cases it's just the opposite. In these cases it requires a 1 to 1

form of contact rather than a group one. Of course it always helps if you

get the help of a sensitive with the cases of this tampering.

 

 WB> What I've heard over the years is awesome in what folks have exper-

 WB> ienced. To get to the root of it and why is very confusing to all

 WB> concerned. It is that well concealed and laced with false implanted

 WB> ideas, experience, and very difficult to distinguish the difference.

 

I see you have met or heard of a few of the cases where a completely

different personality inhabits the body of the person due to the implant-

ation of the alien engrams over the existing ones in part of the brains

subconscious. These engrams can cause false memories or a complete lack of

the original consciousness. I have seen a case of this in a MPD person.

 

[continued next message]

 

--- Maximus 2.02

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO

Date: 05-12-95 (01:09)             Number: 6391

From: WALTER BARTOO                Refer#: 6390

  To: MONICA JESENSKY               Recvd: NO 

Subj: Zeta's - 2 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I

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 > [continued from last mesage]

 

 >  WB> Reason being it only brings out further denial, and creates false

 >  WB> situations that then serve no worth while reason for either party to

 >  WB> continue. Much of this is because the mind substitutes for what it

 >  WB> cannot accept, that then recreates what it can. Abuse, Rape and a

 >  WB> very long list here occurs in these situations that are better left

 >  WB> alone. Individuals that put out the classic warning signs in the

 >  WB> field of experiencers are best left alone, leaving them to go on be-

 >  WB> lieving what they want to believe. The Zeta responces were a firm

 >  WB> indication of this classic responce and indicated that she was not

 >  WB> ready to accept anything beyond her self created idea of what she

 >  WB> experienced and why.

 

 > I see you see the same conclusion that I see here. Also let us think

 > of the many with MPD which are actually the result of military and alien

 > mental traumatizations.

 

(WB) Yes I do. Also satanic parler games, to feed their huge perverted sexual

appetites. Lots of these poor souls beginning to remember, earlier abuse by

them. Who to say those on Disk duty don't get a lady or two in thier active

service to have as a keeper. This goes on rank having

previlages I'm told.

 

 >  WB> Im dealing with other folks creating substantiated phenomena I can see

 >  WB> that prove to me and verify what they are relating to me is real. Her

 >  WB> stuff is for followers not yet seeing things going not verifiable be-

 >  WB> yond her abduction, verifying anything. The tests I set up are hard

 >  WB> to fake. You cannot fake them! These are the folks that most interest

 >  WB> me. She is the type I stir away from. They lurk here on this echo and

 >  WB> can't relate to any of this beyond the victim. I've tried to work

 >  WB> past this condition with some, it seldom goes anywhere and I under-

 >  WB> stand they are blocked and not easily reached to understand what they

 >  WB> have actually experienced. This situation at best should never be

 >  WB> dealt with in this medium as the means in anyway to help them. Reason

 >  WB> being they fixate on the negative, remain the victim and live in con-

 >  WB> stant denial of everyone who questions their experience.

 

 > This is all true in what I have experienced with folks as well.

 

(Wb) Are you doing active research and regression therapy on individuals?

 

 >  WB> This is the only way they can deal with it. You cannot get past this

 >  WB> on a computer typing to someone, or see the ifs, ands and buts clear-

 >  WB> ly. The best experiencer is the one who can deal with whatever occur-

 >  WB> ed and is less traumatized by it, that can objectively look at it

 >  WB> without need of blocks of memory, or fear welling up and or creating

 >  WB> paranoia.

 

 > Yes and Nancy clearly refuses to have direct contact with people as

 > do many others.

 

(Wb) Neither do you?  I'm told it is basic preliminary post hypnotic

suggestion. It goes like this: seek seclusion and be available. waiting for

the next time. Can't find friends they relate too. Sound similiar?

 

 >  WB> My research indicates programming is layered and difficult to work

 >  WB> through.

 

 > Here is a clue...Usually it is a part of a phrase followed by a

 > partially binary and partially hex code which is then followed by a

 > continuation or ending of the phrase. This is how the codes are usually

 > implemented.  These codes have many permutations. A partial code in the

 > wrong spot can cause anything from physical debilitations to complete

 > self destruct modes.  I can attest to a few folks I have met that were

coded. Many now exist

 > in Psych hospitals. If you want to find the result of military blunders

 > at trying to deprogram what was programmed in during visits to the military

 > alien labs, then check out many of the GI's whom were returned from war

 > in Vietnam only to end up in Nut houses. Many of these were programmed

 > with a code to go into Kill mode. However there were further permutations

 > to the codes which in my opinion were alien code permutations which

 > causes a section of the subconscious mind to not allow these codes to be

 > erased without use of the mutated code segments entered by the alien

 > contacts to change after a singal usage. I believe that the persons are

 > to be used when the Greys make their true reasons for being here public.

 > I know that these codes can be activated with high band signals above the

 > conscious mind to hear. Furthermore these codes cause the adrenal glands to

 > secrete at a very high rate.

 

(WB) Sounds kinky. Have you seen any of these codes reproduced in trance by

request from the hypnotist?  I'd be interested in seeing this. Vietnam

special forces were done by the government, not by ets.

 

 >  WB> Mistakes can cause more truama and even suicide.

 

 > Ah yes just as I said above.

 

 >  WB> Not being an expert I walk softly and do not dwell too deeply till

 >  WB> the trust bond is firmly rooted and established. Then it's better

 >  WB> to interact as a group sharing experiences and information rather

 >  WB> than one on one.

 

 > In many cases it's just the opposite. In these cases it requires a 1

 > to 1 form of contact rather than a group one. Of course it always helps if

 > you get the help of a sensitive with the cases of this tampering.

 

(WB) Situations vary, I find it best to select whom I'm working with ffrom a

group.

 

 > I see you have met or heard of a few of the cases where a completely

 > different personality inhabits the body of the person due to the

 > implant of the alien engrams over the existing ones in part of the

 > brains subconscious. These engrams can cause false memories or a complete

 > lack of the original consciousness. I have seen a case of this in a MPD

 > person.

 

(WB) MPD is the resulting mind fix developed to hide and accept the trauma.

 

 > [continued next message]

 

 > --- Maximus 2.02

 >  * Origin: A Bit Of Light In Your Night 203/290-8578 10p-9a Only

 > (1:142/578)

 

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO

Date: 05-09-95 (09:34)             Number: 6175

From: MONICA JESENSKY              Refer#: 6174

  To: WALTER BARTOO                 Recvd: NO 

Subj: Zeta's - 3 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I

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[continued from last message]

 

 WB> All of which is by design to confuse the real direction and reason

 WB> this is taking place and by whom. It's easy to plant situations,

 WB> ideas, and create entities in a persons mind once they are receptive

 WB> and programed. Implants are used for several reasons. They can induce

 WB> trance over long distances, one word given can then be transmitted,

 WB> bringing up instant programmed responce. Everything in the mind and

 WB> out can also be monitored depending on what type inplants are used.

 WB> Visual and audiable!

 

Yep. Too bad so many persons are thinking you and I are crazy as they read

what you typed to me and what I am replying. My opinion on the matter is

that perhaps its for the best that they don't believe us for the danger

factor when you know some of what I know and much of what you obviously

know as well. I look at it this way.. should the Sheikeila decide I am a

risk and my contact and his friends fail to protect me, then I will just

move on to true 4th density existance. That being where the corporeal self

is shed and the true existence begins. Of course there is a fear that they

may capture my life force transmission to some other object. This I have

been told exists as a actual hapanstance out there much alike the star trek

Vulcan Khatra. If a persons essence gets free it enters true 4th density

but if its captured it stays as a 3rd density locked into a second density

existance. Were you aware of this situation? Had your contact filled you

in on these details and on the details where the Sheikeila are the only

ones among the greys to possess the mental transferrance ability.

 

 WB> So my advice is go where it feels right and explore and share in those

 WB> areas with those folks.

 

Sounds good to me.

 

 WB> Last but not least I know the real purpose of Zetas, and everything

 WB> going on.

 

As do I my friend.

 

 WB> When the time is right everyone who needs to know will be told.

 

Hopefully they will believe those of us whom know enough to tell them.

 

 WB> The time will be just before the WAR starts in the South.

 

In asia there will be a conflagration at the same time.

 

 WB> Earth is not alone in this taking place.

 

Ain't that the truth as any Nord will tell you. They were originally a

victim of the parties which are now here.

 

 WB> These events are not far off.

 

I guess so.

 

 WB> Thats all I'm allowed to say at this time.

 

I understand why you do not wish to say much further. May you have a good

day while you assimilate what I have typed at you.

 

Monica

 

--- Maximus 2.02

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO

Date: 05-12-95 (00:54)             Number: 6390

From: WALTER BARTOO                Refer#: 6175

  To: MONICA JESENSKY               Recvd: NO 

Subj: Zeta's - 3 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I

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 > [continued from last message]

 

 >  WB> All of which is by design to confuse the real direction and reason

 >  WB> this is taking place and by whom. It's easy to plant situations,

 >  WB> ideas, and create entities in a persons mind once they are receptive

 >  WB> and programed. Implants are used for several reasons. They can induce

 >  WB> trance over long distances, one word given can then be transmitted,

 >  WB> bringing up instant programmed responce. Everything in the mind and

 >  WB> out can also be monitored depending on what type inplants are used.

 >  WB> Visual and audiable!

 

 > Yep. Too bad so many persons are thinking you and I are crazy as they

 > read what you typed to me and what I am replying. My opinion on the matter

 > is that perhaps its for the best that they don't believe us for the

 > danger factor when you know some of what I know and much of what you

 > obviously know as well. I look at it this way.. should the Sheikeila

decide I

 > am a risk and my contact and his friends fail to protect me, then I will

 > just move on to true 4th density existance. That being where the corporeal

 > self is shed and the true existence begins. Of course there is a fear that

 > they may capture my life force transmission to some other object. This I

 > have been told exists as a actual hapanstance out there much alike the

 > star trek Vulcan Khatra. If a persons essence gets free it enters true 4th

 > density but if its captured it stays as a 3rd density locked into a second

 > density existance. Were you aware of this situation?

 

(WB) I'm aware there are two or more heavens. One only being the real 4th

density. However you and I are protected against this occuring. We are

constantly monitored by a scout ship and this taking place is very slim at

best. Not to mention I go into fourth density quite abit and have had my

battles there. You might say I'm a tough old fighting Cock. Hard to kill,

they've tried and pretty stubborn about fullfilling commitements.

 

 > Had your contact filled you in on these details and on the details where

 > the Sheikeila are the only ones among the greys to possess the mental

 > transferrance ability.

 

(WB) I doubt they would put one of these up against a Tron. But if they do it

will make the game more interesting. Trons are peaceful warriors who smile in

the face of diversity and LOVE long odds. What can I say, grin. Never heard

the term Sheikeila before you brought it up. I'll be shore to get you a re-

run filmed if we end up meeting in fourth density.

 

 >  WB> So my advice is go where it feels right and explore and share in those

 >  WB> areas with those folks.

 

 > Sounds good to me.

 

 >  WB> Last but not least I know the real purpose of Zetas, and everything

 >  WB> going on.

 

 > As do I my friend.

 

 >  WB> When the time is right everyone who needs to know will be told.

 

 > Hopefully they will believe those of us whom know enough to tell

 > them.

 

 >  WB> The time will be just before the WAR starts in the South.

 

 > In asia there will be a conflagration at the same time.

 

 >  WB> Earth is not alone in this taking place.

 

 > Ain't that the truth as any Nord will tell you. They were originally

 > a victim of the parties which are now here.

 

 >  WB> These events are not far off.

 

 > I guess so.

 

 >  WB> Thats all I'm allowed to say at this time.

 

 > I understand why you do not wish to say much further. May you have a

 > good day while you assimilate what I have typed at you.

 

Regards Walter <AKA> Kortron.

 

P.S. To bad I missed you! Wanted to energy lock in on you for future fun

and games. I work with all types and then some.

 

 > Monica

 

 > --- Maximus 2.02

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO

Date: 05-10-95 (18:12)             Number: 6362

From: HUGO RAMIRO                  Refer#: 5600

  To: ROBERT STIRNIMAN              Recvd: NO 

Subj: Zetas to Glenda                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I

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 Hi!

 

 RS> Hi Hugo. Communication from any intelligent entity, where ever it may

 RS> have come from, MUST be internally consistent.

 

 I agree with you for the most part. I still don't see, however, how we can

judge 'what' is consistent with 'what' when we don't understand the whole

story.

 My 'studies' in meditation have shown me that contradictions can be one of

the most effective tools for pointing in a direction that normal, internally

consistent language cannot.

In this case, contradictions, despite initial impressions, are internally

consistent.

 These 'aliens', however, do not seem to have this clarity of perception, and

seem to simply be inconsistent.

 

 HR> I really have a hard time taking _anything_ being ejected from AOL

 HR> seriously. :)

 

 RS> Me too, and I surely will never send any nickels to AOL. But, even

 RS> though a message may be phony, or consist mainly of disinformation,

 RS> the possible motive and agency of the source and messenger is often

 RS> something that should be taken seriously.

 

 I agree. But I still don't pay attention to AOL...since I'm quite sure that

if any fragment of truth _was_ spewed forth from its bowels, we would find it

to be behind the times. ;)

 

 Bye for now,

 Hugo

--- GEcho 1.00

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