[ChemTrail Tracking USA] Digest Number 6500


MessageChemTracking USA s In This Digest (14 Messages)
1a.  Re: GlobalBioWeather Cloud From: DirkDiggler
1b.  Re: GlobalBioWeather Cloud From: Chuck W.
1c.  Re: GlobalBioWeather Cloud From: A Lippincott
1d.  Re: GlobalBioWeather Cloud From: michael curtis
2.  North Central Pennsylvania Chemtrails Update From: Lyn
3.  An interesting perspective on Global Warming AND Chemtrails? From: A Lippincott
4a.  New Chemtrail Aerosol Deployment Method transforms trails to haze in From: Hsaive
4b.   Re: New Chemtrail Aerosol Deployment Method transforms trails to haz From: Lyn
5a.   Chemtrail cocktails causing brochitis/flu like symptoms? From: Bj Bennett
5b.   Re: Chemtrail cocktails causing brochitis/flu like symptoms? From: jrd
6a.   A NEW FORM OF CHEMTRAIL? From: thymelyone
6b.   Re: A NEW FORM OF CHEMTRAIL? From: Bj Bennett
7a.   Fw: [preparation2003] NASA Launching 5 Rockets in 5 Minutes in Sunda From: Bj Bennett
7b.   Re: Fw: [preparation2003] NASA Launching 5 Rockets in 5 Minutes in S From: Lyn

1a.  Re: GlobalBioWeather Cloud
Posted by: "DirkDiggler"      krustypuppet
Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:58 am (PDT)


*Was it a televised program or was it on tape. I feel that lots of movie's
especially from the 80's have been edited. Digitally remastered as they
like to say. These guys have lots of money to spend and photoshop is a
consumer product imagine the technology they might have. They could put
chemtrails in any movie and you would not know it.*
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*The only way to tell and it's not totally accurate is to watch a movie on
VHS and compare it what is shown on TV. I have seen some movies on the TV
which were from the 80's with chemtrails in a few frames.
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Chuck W. <cajunreb2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yesterday I watched the movie Billy Jack, filmed injury 1971 and there are
> several scenes with chemtrails in the sky.
> For anyone that thinks chemtrails started in the 90 's just watch the
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> Cajun Treasure Hunter
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> * Subject: *] GlobalBioWeather Cloud
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> Here’s a photo I found filed under “high clouds” on the website
> http://globalbioweather.com/clouds_gallery.html.
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1b.  Re: GlobalBioWeather Cloud
Posted by: "Chuck W."       cajunreb2000
Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:33 am (PDT)


Now I have to dig out an old tape and see. I am aware of a few movies that had chemtrails added to the sky.  Someone pointed that out to me a few years ago. Can't think of any of them right now. Chemtrails pictures are commonly added to commercials. 

Cajun Treasure Hunter

1c.  Re: GlobalBioWeather Cloud
Posted by: "A Lippincott"       alippy60
Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:39 pm (PDT)


I was searching on google earth northeast of  Minot, ND and when I got down to about 500' there was one clear as day running nw to se. Â

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Subject: Re: [Chem Trail Tracking USA] GlobalBioWeather Cloud


 
Was it a televised program or was it on tape. I feel that lots of movie's especially from the 80's have been edited. Digitally remastered as they like to say. These guys have lots of money to spend and photoshop is a consumer product imagine the technology they might have. They could put chemtrails in any movie and you would not know it.

The only way to tell and it's not totally accurate is to watch a movie on VHS and compare it what is shown on TV. I have seen some movies on the TV which were from the 80's with chemtrails in a few frames.Â

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Chuck W. <cajunreb2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yesterday I watched the movie Billy Jack, filmed injury 1971 and there are several scenes with chemtrails in the sky.
>For anyone that thinks chemtrails started in the 90 's just watch the movie.
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>Cajun Treasure Hunter
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> From: Susan Lervold
>To:
>Subject: [Chem Trail Tracking USA] GlobalBioWeather Cloud
>Sent: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:09:57 AM
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>Here’s a photo I found filed under “high clouds� on the website http://globalbioweather.com/clouds_gallery.html. 


>Susan
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Re: GlobalBioWeather Cloud
Posted by: "michael curtis"     spikeman_33rd
Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:40 pm (PDT)


I used to do blue screen compositing and tracking. Pretty easy to ad a slightly transparent chem-cloud to an outdoor scene. It's a standard op to ad new skies to a shot to dress it up....or down.  

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From: Chuck W. <cajunreb2000@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: ] GlobalBioWeather Cloud


Now I have to dig out an old tape and see. I am aware of a few movies that had chemtrails added to the sky. Someone pointed that out to me a few years ago. Can't think of any of them right now. Chemtrails pictures are commonly added to commercials.

Cajun Treasure Hunter

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Subject: Re:  GlobalBioWeather Cloud
Sent: Sat, Mar 17, 2012 4:09:27 AM


 
Was it a televised program or was it on tape. I feel that lots of movie's especially from the 80's have been edited. Digitally remastered as they like to say. These guys have lots of money to spend and photoshop is a consumer product imagine the technology they might have. They could put chemtrails in any movie and you would not know it.

The only way to tell and it's not totally accurate is to watch a movie on VHS and compare it what is shown on TV. I have seen some movies on the TV which were from the 80's with chemtrails in a few frames.Â

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Chuck W. <cajunreb2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yesterday I watched the movie Billy Jack, filmed injury 1971 and there are several scenes with chemtrails in the sky.
>For anyone that thinks chemtrails started in the 90 's just watch the movie.
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>Cajun Treasure Hunter
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> From: Susan Lervold
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>Subject:  GlobalBioWeather Cloud
>Sent: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 5:09:57 AM
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>Here’s a photo I found filed under “high clouds� on the website http://globalbioweather.com/clouds_gallery.html. 


>Susan
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2.  North Central Pennsylvania Chemtrails Update
Posted by: "Lyn"  returntogodsgarden
Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:29 am (PDT)


This is an update for the past week 3/11 - today*

They have given us an early spring, old school chemtrailing has returned in force as have the traditional chemtrails blue skies that alternate with a steel blue at times that appears almost greenish blue depending on time of day. Lots of big fluffly chemclouds that immediately break apart at the edges and disperse into chemhaze. This afternoon it is blue out, but that washed out blue whole sky.

When I got up this morning around 8 am and looked out my window it was complete "fog" ground up, could have been naturally occuring but I didn't get a good feel for it. My observations later kind of confirmed that, with chemwebs on the bushes, trees, telephone lines and my allergy rhinitis symptoms absolutely going through the roof after being outside just a few minutes this afternoon did me in. Hot in the sun that summer kind of hot, intense burning chemtrails sun.

Makes me wish it was still winter and I hate winter.

 

3.  An interesting perspective on Global Warming AND Chemtrails?
Posted by: "A Lippincott"  alippy60
Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:38 pm (PDT)

 


I came across this doing some surfing about energy vortex's  and geomagnetic anomalies.  These are areas like Sadona, CA, Shasta Mtn, CA., Montauk Long Island,  Brookhaven National Lab,  The Dagons Triangle, The Burmuda Triangle, etc.  All of these places are recognized for their unusual geomagnetic and electrical energy characteristics. 

The article talks about global warming being the result of all of the microwave energy in the atmosphere since 1950, and its heating capabilities.   The chemtrails connection could be in fact related to global warming, but for the purpose of reflecting RF microwaves back into the atmosphere to reduce the rate of global warming.  Maybe that's why Alfred E Newman the second wouldn't sign the Kyoto Treaty....

I usually relate the chemtrail clouds to blocking the sun, but the intent may be four fold...I'm not suggesting for a minute that there aren't "other" agendas as well.

ALSO on the East Coast watch for the launching, now scheduled for tomorrow night of the NASA  ARTEX rockets Sunday night  from Wallops Flight Center in Virginnia.   They are suggesting that they will be visable to he entire east coast, especially as the tracers burn off at or near the exosphere.  Could be quite a sight!

http://globalmicrowave.org 
 

4a.  New Chemtrail Aerosol Deployment Method transforms trails to haze in
Posted by: "Hsaive"  hsaive@cox.net     hsaive
Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:41 pm (PDT)


New Chemtrail Aerosol Deployment Method transforms trails
to haze in under 3 minutes

Gainesville Florida skies were relatively clear until about 1 PM
when a southbound jet exhibited normal contrails.
Armed with binoculars, a second jet followed southbound after a
few minutes spraying unusual "toothpaste" style chemtrails that
quickly turned to haze.

A third southbound jet followed with what appeared to be classic
"old-fashioned" chemtrails (persistent contrails) that typically
remain identifiable from horizon to horizon.
But instead, these trails from jet #3 disintegrated (almost
magically) into haze in less than 3 minutes, leaving no trace of
a "trail".

Even though the trail was gone, however, the area where the trail
had been presented a noticeable increase in "haze", "aerial
obscuration", "vapor trails" or whatever we agree the name should
be.

All 3 jets were 2 engine aircraft southbound above 35,000 feet.
Binoculars ID's Jet #3 as most likely a Boeing 767. All 3 could
have been the same type.

This is a noticeable change in covert delivery systems for
reasons we can only suspect.
If trimethylaluminum was the former method to expand the trail to
cause overcast skies, we can only guess the purpose of the new
trail compound.

Was it a coincidence that North Florida and Gainesville received
significant rainfall (with no rain forecast) following the new
vapor trails?
Was this a geoengineering test to manufacture rainfall?
Was today's chemtrails equivalent to cloud-seeding?

North Florida is currently under severe, long-term drought with a
lot of news coverage.

H

 

 


 
4b. Re: New Chemtrail Aerosol Deployment Method transforms trails to haz
Posted by: "Lyn"  returntogodsgarden
Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:05 pm (PDT)

 


People on the group have been noting this for awhile now, usually we refer to it as quick dissolving or quick dissipating trails or something along those lines. It's one of the many ops' - they never completely eliminate one, just seem to alternate like they are experimenting, which of course they are. It also seems to me that there are different health responses to these different types, also seem to be some sky change colors along with these experiments.

I know what I about to say may throw some people up in arms but at this point I feel that chemtrails are primarily a military operation (and related contractors) and commercial airlines are not involved. If some private contractors have access to traditional (non military) type planes as used by the commercial airlines it may be why it seems that commercial airlines are involved in these ops, in fact that would make for a nice cover. Certainly the airlines are part of the Illuminati agenda, I just don't feel they are chemtrailing.

I believe the state of the skies and the saturation of chemicals lends itself to "chemtrails" looking dispersion whether or not they are really chemtrails meaning leading to persisting trails in non-chemtrails planes or creating a saturation over ice type phenomena because of the chemical composition of the skies. It is still pretty clear when real chemtrailing is being done especially because of the plane's manuevers.

When I first started observing chemtrails it was clear that only the chemplanes were laying persisting chemical trails, however after a couple more years high saturation it seemed nearly all planes were laying persisting trails at times. I don't think they increased the fleet, I don't think they added them to commercial jet fuel.. I think they altered the skies so much that is the reason that more trails besides real chemtrails persist. It's pretty clear to those of us who are ELF and HAARP sensitive of the changing plasma skies.

They will continue to adjust the ops and as invisible as they try to make these appear our health symptoms and the state of the environment don't lie... we know what is still going on.

5a.  Chemtrail cocktails causing brochitis/flu like symptoms?
Posted by: "Bj Bennett"  jowandanubians
Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:42 pm (PDT)


Here in Yucca Valley, CA we are sprayed on a daily basis, some are the old ones that balloon out and are instantly obvious, others that look like long thin contrails that disappear quickly, but leave a silver haze behind.

Everyone in this town has had strange bronchitis/flu like symptoms, that don't respond to antibiotics, including me. I had a runny nose, chest pains, sore shoulder joints, loss of appetite, no energy whatsoever and loaded with phlegm. Finally my blood pressure shot up to 190/90 and I went to the emergency hospital. Every booth was full of sick people. I had to sit in a chair and wait for a physician's assistant to take me to the x-ray dept. My Dr. had given me a prescription for a Z-pack and it did no good.

Yesterday I started to get the same symptoms again. A friend of mine stopped by and said her husband was in bed with the same thing, and a friend of hers went to the emergency hospital and said every booth was filled in the emergency ward. She had to stand in the hall to get a shot.

I believe all of this is coming from the chemtrails. My husband has been sick with it for weeks now and has no energy whatsoever.

June
 

( or not as the disbursement from 38,000 ft. would  not be sufficient or even reach her unless the prevailing winds were straight down and even then the plane would have  to be stationary in geo sync orbit for days before the saturation  level would reach anything that she discribes.)

5b. Re: Chemtrail cocktails causing brochitis/flu like symptoms?
Posted by: "jrd"  jrd4858
Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:17 pm (PDT)


see if there are any reports about deaths and there causes. This the same kind of thing that killed so many people in England.

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From: Bj Bennett
To:  Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject] Chemtrail cocktails causing brochitis/flu like symptoms?

Here in Yucca Valley, CA we are sprayed on a daily basis, some are the old ones that balloon out and are instantly obvious, others that look like long thin contrails that disappear quickly, but leave a silver haze behind.

Everyone in this town has had strange bronchitis/flu like symptoms, that don't respond to antibiotics, including me. I had a runny nose, chest pains, sore shoulder joints, loss of appetite, no energy whatsoever and loaded with phlegm. Finally my blood pressure shot up to 190/90 and I went to the emergency hospital. Every booth was full of sick people. I had to sit in a chair and wait for a physician's assistant to take me to the x-ray dept. My Dr. had given me a prescription for a Z-pack and it did no good.

Yesterday I started to get the same symptoms again. A friend of mine stopped by and said her husband was in bed with the same thing, and a friend of hers went to the emergency hospital and said every booth was filled in the emergency ward. She had to stand in the hall to get a shot.

I believe all of this is coming from the chemtrails. My husband has been sick with it for weeks now and has no energy whatsoever.

June

6a.   A NEW FORM OF CHEMTRAIL?
Posted by: "thymelyone"  thymelyone
Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:43 pm (PDT)


Nasa is launching 5 rockets from Virginia on Sunday night. Here is what Nasa has to say:

As part of the mission, the five rockets will each release a chemical tracer that should inscribe brilliant milky white trails in the nighttime sky and allow scientists and the general public to actually "see" high-altitude winds at the edge of space, according to a NASA description.

What does this sound like to you?

Here are 2 links to read and watch video.

http://www.space.com/14902-nasa-rocket-launches-east-coast-skywatching.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL_-eX9cfLw&feature=channel

Lauren O. Thyme, Washington state

6b.  Re: A NEW FORM OF CHEMTRAIL?
Posted by: "Bj Bennett"  jowandanubians
Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:30 pm (PDT)


Could be loaded chemtrails, carrying different payloads of poisons for us

June
----- Original Message -----
From: thymelyone
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject:  A NEW FORM OF CHEMTRAIL?

Nasa is launching 5 rockets from Virginia on Sunday night. Here is what Nasa has to say:

As part of the mission, the five rockets will each release a chemical tracer that should inscribe brilliant milky white trails in the nighttime sky and allow scientists and the general public to actually "see" high-altitude winds at the edge of space, according to a NASA description.

What does this sound like to you?

Here are 2 links to read and watch video.

http://www.space.com/14902-nasa-rocket-launches-east-coast-skywatching.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL_-eX9cfLw&feature=channel

Lauren O. Thyme, Washington state

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Fw: [preparation2003] NASA Launching 5 Rockets in 5 Minutes in Sunda
Posted by: "Bj Bennett"      jowandanubians
Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:18 pm (PDT)


We already have glowing clouds in the sky from chemtrails. We don't need anymore. I wonder what this is all about. I'm not realy buying this story.

June

http://www.space.com/14939-nasa-5-rocket-launches-saturday-night.html

After a four-day delay, NASA is planning to fire off five rockets in just over five minutes late Sunday (March 18) for a mission that, if all goes well, will create glowing clouds to probe mysterious, fast-moving winds at the edge of space.

The five-rocket salvo, which is scheduled to launch Sunday night from NASA's Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia, forms the core of the agency's Anomalous Transport Rocket Experiment, or ATREX. The unmanned rockets will release chemical tracers at about 60 miles (97 kilometers) up, allowing scientists to track high-altitude winds that can top 300 mph (483 kph).

These tracers will generate luminous milky-white clouds that should be visible to folks on the ground from parts of South Carolina up through southern New England, researchers have said.

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Posted by: "Lyn"       returntogodsgarden
Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:28 pm (PDT)

 


There is a mind conditioning psychological element to all this, just like acclimating people to cloud propaganda. If you read the full article and others I have seen they are making a big hoopla over it, encouraging people to track and observe this... wow, now isn't that great? Just like other spaceweather, cool huh? Hey everybody look at us put a few tons of toxic metals into the sky so we can see the gulf streams... or solar wind, or whatever else they come up with (in future). Now don't be scared folks, just get used to seeing glowing clouds, don't worry about radiation or chemical warfare it's just our innocent space experiments.

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Just think if that is 60 miles up then think about 38,000 feet  at seven miles up the wind being around 90 mph at the jet stream levels  so the spraying never disburses even at a nominal rate at ground level because prevaling winds are carrying it away at 30 to 90 mph and it is disbursing so where do you have any legitimate fallout?)

 

the documentary film “What in the World are They Spraying“, by Michael J. Murphy, attempts to promote the Chemtrail Conspiracy Theory (which states that long lasting contrails are actually the result of secret government spray operations), and proposes a possible explanation: that the trails part of a geoengineering project involving injecting large amounts of aluminum into the atmosphere to block the suns rays.

Multiple parallel trails over Mt Shasta, California. Taken in 1989, ten years before the chemtrail operations were supposed to have begun.

The basic premise of the film is:

  • Normal Contrails fade away quickly
  • Scientists have talked about geoengineering using aluminum sprayed from planes
  • Since 1999, trails have been observed to persist for a long time
  • Tests in various locations at ground level have found different levels of aluminum
  • Monsanto has genetically engineered  aluminum resistent crops
  • The government denies any spraying or geoengineering is going on
  • THEREFORE:  The trails are aluminum being sprayed as part of a secret government geoengineering project.

Normal contrails can persist and spread

That reasoning is somewhat suspect even if you accept all the points. But where it really falls down is that it’s based on a false assumption – that “normal” contrails quickly fade away.   In reality, normal contrails can persist for hours, and spread out to cover the sky.  Whether they do this or not is entirely dependent on the atmospheric conditions that the plane is flying through, so it depends on the weather, and on the altitude of the plane. This is something that has been observed since 1921. Just look at any book on the weather, like this one from 1981:

They tested sludge, not water

So the film is based on a  false premise, and builds upon it to an inevitable false conclusion.  But what about the aluminum tests? You can find the tests referenced in the film here:

http://contrailscience.com/files/chemtrails_basic_lab_report.pdf

And this is the one shown in the film, which they claim should be pure water:

Pond with low aluminum in the sediment. The film mistakenly claims the level are high by comparing them to water levels. Note the rocks (8% aluminum) that line the edges, and the bottom.

The bottom line here is that they are testing sludge rather than water. Sludge is water mixed with dirt. Dirt is naturally 7% aluminum. That’s all they are finding.

The first aluminum result is from the pond, discussed at the start of part 3, and it’s 375,000 ug/l.  What they don’t mention is that it’s from pond sediment, sludge.  So essentially it’s not testing water, but is instead testing the amount of aluminum in soil. So that’s  375 mg/kg for sediment that has settled in a pond over several years. That’s actually quite low. Aluminum concentration in soil ranges from 0.07% to 10%, but is typically 7.1%, or 71,000 mg/kg.  The amount of aluminum found in the sludge is quite easily explained by windblown dust. It’s low, probably because it’s a new pond, so a lot of the sediment is vegetable matter.

Then there are the rain readings.  33, 262, 650, 188, 525, 881, 84, 815, 3450, 2190 ug/L. Wildly different values, some high sounding, some low.  But no details are provided that correlate these different numbers of contrail activity.  If this variation were due to aerial spraying, then surely a match would be found.  These numbers simply tell us that different tests produced different results.  It does not tell us why.   No details of the sampling procedure are given, or the weather conditions preceding the test.   Nor are we told what are the expected levels of aluminum to be found under these conditions.

Rain guage used for aluminum test. Note the mounting bracket appears to be made from aluminum.

Rain water contains particulates from airborne dust.  The amount of particulates will vary greatly based on the weather.  A sample from a brief intense storm after a dry period would give you more particulates than a sample taken in the middle of several days of rain. The amount of particulates in the sample would also vary with how long the container is left out in the open.  Dust will settle on the container if it’s left out for a while, increasing the amount of aluminum found.  All these tests are really telling us is how much dust the sample was contaminated with.

How much aluminum is there in the dust? Let’s say it’s about the same as the amount of aluminum in soil (although it’s probably higher). How much dust is there in rain? According of Edward Elway Free of the the United State Bureau of Soils, in his book “The Movement of Soil Material by the Wind“, in tests performed by Tissandier, rain water contained 25,000 to 172,000 ug/L of particulates.  But he notes “As the amounts of rain and snow which fell in the various cases are not given, the figures are of little value.  The first drops of a rain storm will of course contain the largest percentage of dust, and as the storm continues the air is gradually wasted clean.”.  Still if only 1% of the lowest figures there were aluminum, then that’s still 250 ug/L.  And at a quite plausible 10% of the upper range, that’s 17,200 ug/L.  A range that easily covers the observed test results.

See also the Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences, VOl 4, 1967, which shows Aluminum found in rain in the range 520 ug/L to 1,120 ug/L, over 13 different tests. This shows that the results in 1967 (when presumably there were no chemtrails) are pretty much the same as the results the WITWATS is getting. Nothing unusual.

Tens of thousands of time the "maximum limit" for water. Sure. But you were not testing water, you were testing dirt

The soil tests are where a typical mistake is made – conflating the percentage of the metal in one substance (soil) with the typical percentages in others.  As noted, soil aluminum naturally ranges from 0.07% to 10%, and is typically around 7.1%, which is 71,000 mg/kg.  The tests from Oregon (see sheet 16 in the pdf) list quite ordinary results for soil of 18,600 to 38,000.  But then they note the results are “Tens of thousands of times the maximun limit for water“, which is true, but they are not testing water, they are testing soil, and it less than half the normal value for soil.

They continue this on the next page, with a low soil aluminum value of 10,500 mg/kg (just 1% aluminum), and yet note: “Near playground Sisson Elementary 300‘ away”.  As if this is somehow dangerous to children.   It’s just normal soil, as found in any playground, anywhere, ever.

Aluminum is everywhere, in various quantities

  • Aluminum is the most abundant metallic element in the earth’s crust, about 8% of the ground is aluminum.
  • Aluminum is everywhere, in the food we eat, and the air we breath (as dust)
  • Aluminum is in daily contact with us, in soda cans, cookware, aluminum cooking foil, construction, transportation, baseball bats, etc.
  • The amount of aluminum in any location varies naturally. In some places there is a lot, in others there is very little.
  • Contamination of samples with aluminum is very common due to it’s abundance and common usage.  Unless careful control samples are taken, then the results are often wildly inaccurate.
  • One of the tests in the film was water collected by a schoolgirl in a mason jar.  Mason jars occasionally have aluminum lids
  • Another was taken from a ski area snow pack in early summer.  Skis, ski grooming equipment, and ski towers use aluminum. (Update: it is not an active ski area, so more likely it’s just dirt contamination, as the sample was taken in July)
  • Aluminum is a common ingredient in antiperspirants and antacids such as Mylanta.

Aluminum resistent crops have been a goal for 100 years

And knowing that aluminum is very common will also answer why Monsanto would want to develop  aluminum resistent crops.  It will increase yields in areas with acidic soil.   Given the ubiquitous presence of aluminum in the ground, and the fact that aluminum levels due to soil acidity have been a known problem for a hundred years , it’s hardly surprising that someone would try to make crops have a higher resistance to it.  Here’s the Botanical Gazette of the University of Chicago, Volume 71, page 159, from 1921.

Note the reference at the bottom: “Aluminum as a factor in soil fertility”.  Note also they are discussing how to “reduce the toxicity of aluminum salts” in the ground.  So if scientists were doing it 90 years ago, then why exactly is it somehow suspicious that they are doing it now? For more discussion, see:

http://metabunk.org/threads/341-Debunked-Monsanto-s-Aluminum-Resistant-GMOs-and-Chemtrails

Discussing ≠ Doing

Finally, what of the government discussions of geoengineering, and their denials that anything is going on? Exactly.  What of it? They discuss geoengineering because it’s something that people might actually want to do in the future, so we’d better talk about it now, so we can figure out what problems might occur.  The concerns about health effects and effects on the environment are perfectly valid concerns, but they are not evidence that a spraying program is currently underway.

Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif), chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, has no idea what you are talking about, because there is no government geoengineering project, just a few scientists talking about it.

And the most reasonable explanation for why they deny they are doing it because they are not actually doing it.  The congressmen interviewed in the film claim they they are not familiar with it because they are not familiar with it.  They don’t want to talk about it because they don’t know anything about it.  There’s nothing sinister going on there.  The congressmen are simply not familiar with this one particular theoretical geoengineering method (or probably any theoretical geoengineering method), so when they are buttonholed by someone who rather intensely asks them if they approve of it, then it’s quite understandable they don’t want to talk to him.

The film presents the conferences on geoengineering as if they are somehow secret and clandestine operations that need to be revealed to the public.  In reality geoengineering of this type has been discussed for at least sixty years. It’s hardly covered up, as the discussion has been constantly in the news, often front page news, since 2006, and has been making occasional mainstream news stories since the 1980s, with thousands of publicly accessible research papers over the last sixty years.   Nobody was doing it sixty years ago, nobody was doing it in 2006, and as far as anyone can tell, nobody is doing it now. Denials are not admissions, and discussing something is not the same as doing it.

References:

Geoengineering covers lots of different things, not just spraying things from planes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoengineering

KSLA Report, debunked and retracted

http://contrailscience.com/barium-chemtrails/

Chaff is a real thing, and shows up on the weather

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lmk/?n=chaff-jan2006

But that’s a video of an aerodynamic contrail:

http://contrailscience.com/aerodynamic-and-rainbow-contrails/

Contrails can persist and spread:

http://contrailscience.com/persisting-and-spreading-contrails/

Levels of Aluminum, etc – Michael Murphy’s tests are normal levels

http://contrailscience.com/what-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/

Levels of Aluminum, Barium, Strontium in Hawaii are normal levels

http://metabunk.org/threads/146-Hawaii-Soil-Aluminum-Barium-Strontium-Manganese-and-Varium-tests

Francis Mangels and the soil pH Tests:

http://metabunk.org/threads/154-The-Claims-of-Francis-Mangels-a-Factual-Examination

Cloud Seeding is something you do to clouds to increase precipitation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

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