UFO CONTACT CENTER INTERNATIONAL GROUP MEETING, 1988

Meeting: UFO CONTACT CENTER INTERNATIONAL GROUP MEETING, 1988

Speaker: Martin Cannon

Subject: UFOs and Mind Control

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All I can say is that I have been, for over a year now, pursuing a

specific theory of UFO abductions which has royally ticked off

everybody

that I've come in contact with -- believer and skeptic alike.

This is a theory that, I think, designed to make me hate it. I'm

primarily interested in the government's involvement in the UFO

phenomena.

Specifically, it seems to me, and I might as well lay out all my

cards

on the table at once, it seems to me the abduction phenomenon might

just

be a ploy, that the aliens are a paper-mache mask, as I sometimes put

it, for something else that's really going on.

All theories of UFO abductions that I've ever come across

(excepting the

entirely skeptical ones put out by people like Philip Klass), they

all

include some aspect of the concept of mind control. Now it seems to

me

that if people's minds are being controlled, and I think that this

technology is in existence, then we have to ask the question: can we

trust the participant's reports of what they are seeing, in terms of

perhaps even the UFO's that they are seeing, but certainly the

nature of

the abduction experience itself?

Do we even have to assume that the little gray aliens exist simply

because people tell us that they do, even if they believe that they

exist?

Drawing from a very old example out of hypnotism, and Aileen being

herself a hypnotherapist, can perhaps tell you more about this --

it was

a very common practice, going back many, many decades, to see if

somebody was under some hypnotism, they would introduce them -- they

would take the subject, hypnotize them, and say that there was a

small,

black dog in the room, and he's coming up, and would you pet him.

And the subject will often actually see the dog just as thoroughly,

just

as concretely, as they would see any normal dog that you might get

out

of the animal shelter.

Now if the human brain can be tricked to that extent, then is it not

possible that the ET's that people are seeing are of an exactly like

substance to that dog?

I think it is. I have done a great deal of research into the

subject of

the government's involvement in mind control operations. They like

people to believe that that was all something that they were doing

back

in the 50's and the 60's, and it was all to catch up with the

Russians

who had this huge lead in the field, but they stopped doing it around

1963 and they never really found anything -- it's all a lie!

I mean, basically, I've just come to the conclusion where I can say

that

right now. These programs went very, very far. We got there first. We

were far ahead of the Russians. I even can give you a memo where

Allen

Dulles admitted that to the Warren Commission, of all places.

It went back to World War II, possibly to the 30's, in fact I've just

recently came across some information that occult groups have been

doing

experimentations with what they call electronic mind control, going

all

the way back to the 19th century. In fact there isn't a single

technology of mind control that doesn't go back to that time.

And so, one of the problems, well, I should say that in researching

this

I have not only looked up, read every book available on this subject,

some of which are EXTREMELY hard to find. I mean, I'm sorry to

sound too

paranoid but I'm really beginning to get the idea that somebody has

been

going around to the libraries and hussling them off the shelves,

because

I keep on finding, you know, there are certain books that I keep on

looking for, and I find that they are not checked out, and they are

not

only the library shelves either! And I'm wondering what's happened to

them.

But I think I've now amassed quite a library on the subject, and I've

also gone to Washington, D.C. and I saw some 20,000 documents,

these are

de-classified CIA / Defense Department documents, as well as many

interviews with scientists working on these programs back in the 50's

and 60's, and these were all compiled by John Marks, for his book

_The

Search for the Manchurian Candidate_.

I would suggest that all of you people read that book, but you must

understand that that book is incredibly conservative, and that the

whole

subject goes far, far beyond that. I don't know why John Marks

wrote it

the way he did. Certainly, there was much more information in his

files

than he allowed to come out in his book.

Another good book which I'm sorry to say is very, very difficult to

get

a hold of, and probably the best book on the subject, is called

_Operation Mind Control_, and that's by Walter Bowart. But even then,

after you've gone to that literature, you know, you have to search

through a great deal of periodicals and scientific papers and so

forth,

and also conduct a great many interviews.

I've interviewed people who claim to have been under mind control,

specifically in Vietnam. And what they describe is very, very

similar to

what the abductee's are describing in many respects. Not only that,

I've

spoken to abductees. And this is a subject on which I feel a certain

amount of hesitancy in describing and talking about.

One abductee, I called her Veronica in an article I wrote in UFO

Magazine (it's a long and extremely complicated and fascinating

case),

under hypnosis, and I did not hypnotize her, in fact she is the one

who

wanted the hypnosis and it was administered by a professional

hypnotist.

In the 4th hypnotic session she described one of her abductions,

which

as she dug deeper turned out not to have taken place at all in any

kind

of Unidentified Flying Object, but in fact took place in a house

outside

the Los Angeles area.