Branch Davidian Waco TX

 

This incident is the first use of ant-terrorist tactics by Federal agency against domestic terrorist. Under Reagan definition the group was a terrorist group and when their defensive actions were forced by an over aggressive ATF raid that was a violation of the Groups Constitutional rights. The warrant was improperly worded and did not define what the ATF was looking for in the compound and was illegal.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/dc_branc2.htm

The ATF agent that issued the warrant was met by David Koresh at the front door to Mt. Carmel he asked for 15 min to look over the warrant he closed the door and the agent ran back calling a strike team out over his radio. The agent later explained his actions that it was his thinking that they were destroying evidence and as he was in mortal danger of being shot.

As he was going back toward the strike team David Koresh and his father came to the door and he shouted, “This is a B.S. warrant it don’t even say what you are looking for.” A hand reached from behind the door as he threw the warrant out and his father shouted out, “We knew theses sons of bitches were coming. David.” There was movement though out the building.

od is on your hands.” David slammed the front door as a single shot hit it and dropped his father.

He stated they have failed to give him a real warrant as it stated no cause for this and the are to leave his property or face the consequences of their trespass . The ATF order a tactical Strike on a Church/Residence of some 120 persons whom felt that this search was unreasonable and unwarranted.

The resulting firefight left the ATF with 12 dead 4 immediately at the scene.

David Koresh should have been served a warrant by the local Sheriff then Arrested outside the Mt Carmel Compound While Jogging. The outcome would have been different and not violent. Also the media and ATF use of fiction and incorrect intelligence about the group in relations to the social structure inside the group were also erroneous. The leaking of this to the press by FBI and ATF agents to allow a media smear of David Koresh is actually another anti-terrorism tactic called demonize the cult group leader.

The spread religious cell based terrorism is on the upswing in the USA and has been since the events of 9/11/01 there have been numerous small scale biological attacks dealing with botulism and small spray bottles that are easily concealed and used on salad bars at restraints as well as sprayed in ac/ducts in public buildings.

The fact is Waco was the failure of use of military force against domestic terrorist when such force and should be used as a model for what not to do during a hostage siege. You don’t treat it like when you got Manual Noriega out of Panama.

I am sorry this is late I just got hold of all the Due dates.

I wanted to enclose a transcript of the tape David Koresh released to local stations KSBJ in Houston and their sister station in Waco. I feel you never will see this transcript because it has long been buried by ATF and FBI.

Koresh Text from 3-02 Analysts' Notes jst/sdt

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March 2nd, 1993. |

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My name is Dave Koresh. I'm Speaking to | I. Introduction to the Revelation

you from Mount Carmel center. The first | of Jesus Christ.

thing that I would like to introduce, in |

our subject, is the reasons for the revelation |

of Jesus Christ. | A. The Reasons for

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In the Book of Revelation, commentary | 1. To Show What Must Come.

states, that what John has written in |

Scripture, is nothing other than the |

revelation of Jesus Christ which God |

gave to him, to show to his servants |

things which must shortly come to pass. |

And he sent and signified it, signified |

it, by his angel unto his servant John. |

|

Now, John bear the Record of God, and | 2. To Bless the Reader.

the Word of Christ, and of all things |

that he saw. In the first chapter of |

Revelation it says, "Blessed is the man, | Rev. 1:3

.. blessed is he that readeth, and they |

that hear the words of this prophecy, |

and those who "keep" the things that are |

written therein, for the time is at |

hand." |

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The Scripture states John writes this to | 3. To Address the Churches.

the seven churches which are in Asia: | Rev. 1:11

Ephesus, Smyrna, Thyatira, Sardis, Phil- |

adelphia, Laodicea, so forth. Naturally, | also Pergamos

we must understand that we're not in |

Asia. These churches once existed long |

ago, being beneficiaries of the power |

and the gifts of the gospel. It was ori- |

ginally introduced by, The Man himself. |

Some knew him as Jesus Christ; others |

knew him by the name -- Yeshua. |

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What we're trying to present today may | 4. To Impart the Burden of

in somewise shed a better light in re- | Heart, Mind, and Spirit.

gards to my situation and my predicament |

here at Mount Carmel. One point I'd like | a. Record of Christ's life.

to bring out before we continue, is that |

if we take a look at Matthew, Mark, Luke | The Gospel Writers.

and John, we see the "burden of these |

ancient writers:" the burden of heart, |

the burden of mind and spirit, to put in |

a scriptural record, their personal ex- |

perience with Christ. A record that is | b. For anyone to read.

to be received by men, all men, who will |

receive it. |

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The point is true that not all have seen | 5. Witnesses of the Rejection

Christ, but it has been in the wisdom of | of the Son of God.

God that certain men who were witnesses |

of his life, and death, and resurrection, |

that they would bear witness by the writ- | a. Witnesses for Christ

ten word, and testify to the generations | ie Apostles & Disciples

to come, of the terrible happening that |

took place, when the men of that genera- | cf. Prophets, as witnesses

tion would not believe in the man who | for God

through so many obvious evidences proved |

beyond shadows of doubt, that he was the |

Son of God. |

| B. The Revealer: Jesus Christ.

| 1. Jesus Rejected.

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But sad to say, if we take a look of the | a. Left Juda under threat of

Record of John, the `Gospel Writer' of | death.

John, say Chapter 7. We see in Scripture |

John writes that after certain events, | John 7:1

after these things "Jesus walked in |

Galilee:" he would not walk openly, "he | Koresh is quoting the Bible,

would not walk in Jewry," he would not | from the Book of John.

walk amongst the Jews, "because the Jews |

sought to kill him." We might wonder |

why? Wasn't Christ a such a good man?? |

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"Now the Jews' Feast of Tabernacles was | b. His own brethren doubt him.

at hand. His brethren therefore said un- | John 7:2

to him, Depart hence, and go into Judea, | John 7:3

that thy disciples also may see thy

works that thou doeth. For there is no | John 7:4

man that doeth any thing in secret, and |

he himself seeketh to be known openly. |

If thou do these things, show thyself to |

the world. For neither did his brethren | John 7:5

believe in him." Strange statement isn't |

it? It's funny how that, when men live, |

and have to deal with realities of life,

that even a man like Christ, can have to

meet with unbelief, even from his own |

brethren. |

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"Then Jesus said unto them, My time is | c. Hated by the world.

not yet come: but your time is always | John 7:6

ready." And I'm sure most of all, bible |

students will agree, the time referred |

to, is the time of his crucifixion. They |

wanted to kill him, and he didn't want |

to show himself openly. |

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Then Jesus said unto them... <excuse me | d. You are of the world.

uhnn>, (Verse 7) "The world can not hate | <Koresh seems in pain.>

you; but me it hateth, because I testify | John 7:7

of it, that the works thereof are evil. | John 7:8

Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up |

yet unto this feast; for my time is not |

yet full come." When he said these words | John 7:9

to them while he abode still in Galilee. |

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"But when his brethren were gone up, | e. Went to feast in secret.

then went he also up unto the feast, not | John 7:10

openly, but as it were in secret." You |

would wonder why a man like Christ would |

have something to hide? I mean surely, |

the angels would protect him, obviously. |

A person would think a lot of things |

about this strange character, and dispo- |

sition of character. |

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But we're sure -- being Christians -- | f. Caused contention.

that Christ knew what he was doing. And | Koresh is Christian?!

"the Jews [sought] him at the feast, and | John 7:11

said, Where is he? And there was much | John 7:12

murmuring among the people concerning |

him: [for] some said, He is a good man: | Rev. 7:1

others said, Nay; but he deceiveth * the | * <child cries>

people. Howbeit no man spake openly of | John 7:13

him for fear of the Jews." |

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Now we understand *the Jews at that time | g. Backdrop: Corrupt leaders.

had their own religious-political net- |

work, didn't they? They were pretty |

strong in the religious spectrum, * al- | * <child's voice>

though they had no actual political |

power. They were subject to the Roman |

government, and not to their own judi- |

cial/levitical laws. |

| 2. Taught with Authority.

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"Now about the midst of the feast Jesus | a. The people marvel.

went up into the temple, and taught. | John 7:14

And the Jews marvelled, saying, How | John 7:15

knoweth this man letters, having never |

learned?" * Now in the days of Israel, * | * <child whines>

most scholars * and teachers will agree, | * <child crying>

* that the schools of Israel, ordained | * <tape off & on>

by the Sanhedrin and also the Pharisees, |

were schools similar to the uhh, ones |

of our own theological schools of today. |

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Of which the careful student of Scrip- | b. Insights to Scripture.

ture observes, that nowhere is it writ- |

ten in the gospel that Christ ever at- |

tended these schools. But at the age of |

12, he did enter into the temple, and | Luke 2:41-47

had a most unique and interesting dis- |

cussion with the religious leaders, of |

which they were quite amazed at, such a |

young lad's knowledge of Scripture. |

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Now this man was teaching something -- | c. For it was God's teachings.

(no doubt Christ that is) that inspired |

the people to say, (you know), "How | John 7:15 cont.

knoweth this man (you know) letters |

having never learned?" They marveled. |

"Jesus answered them and [said], My doc- | John 7:16

trine is not mine, but his that sent |

me." Now, what does that mean? "My doc- |

trine is not mine, but his that sent me. |

If any man, will" (do the will) "do his |

will, he shall know [of] the doctrine, |

whether it be of God, or whether I speak |

of myself." |

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- - - : * Koresh Tells His Motives *

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Now friends, people that love the Lord, | There's a short break

this is where we begin to uhhh, talk | from the message about

about some serious things. | Christ here.

|

I'm sure you're all aware of how... how |

I'm involved in a very serious thing |

right now, and I'm sure that a lot of |

you realize that I should be possibly |

scared, concerned. There's women, child- |

ren, and men involved, in our situation |

here at Mount Carmel. But I am really |

concerned about the lives of my brethren | <- Concern for family.

here, and also, would be concerned even |

greater, about the lives of all those in | <- Concern for rest of world.

this world. |

|

- - - :

| 3. Jesus is Our Hope.

|

You know, without Christ, without Jesus, | a. God's law of righteousness.

we have no hope. Why? Well, because we |

know that the standard of God's righ- | Deu. 4,5,6

teousness is Law, a law of the Ten Com- |

mandments, a law of statutes and judg- |

ments. And which God gave unto Moses |

on Sinai, saying this is thy righteous- |

ness, O Israel. |

|

But you know, God also gave another law. | b. Sacrifice as a shadow of

A law revolving around a system of shed- | grace.

ding a poor and innocent lamb's blood. |

So that all who would break the Law of |

God, who would seek God for forgiveness |

and pardon, had to bring a lamb, some- |

thing innocent, and slay it -- although, |

Israel themselves never really knew the |

real meaning of this. Nonetheless, they |

were commanded to do it. Also there were | Lev. 12:6

other sacrifices, such as: turtle-doves, | Num. 19:2

goats, oxen, red heifers. | Heb. 9:12-14

|

But, it was a very sophisticated and | c. Social impacts. (An aside)

very prolific type system of worship. Of |

course, God had to give these people |

their own country. He had to give them |

blessings and things, to be able to per- |

form these, rituals. And naturally of |

course, having to slay a lamb for your |

sins or such sacrifices, it would defini- |

tely keep a man on guard, not to sin too |

much, because otherwise he could lose |

the livestock pretty quick, couldn't he? |

|

Well anyway, (thanks be unto God), from | d. The Law and The Prophets

as far back as Deuteronomy 32, all the | highlight God's mercy.

way through to Malachi, there has been |

other writings, writings of the Proph- | God's writings are His

ets. Writings who do not usurp the au- | Word

thority of Moses, but actually exalt The |

Law of Moses. But yet there's an addi- | God's rock hard law

tional testimony. For the same God of |

Heaven -- Who's rich in mercy -- has not | God's loving mercy

only given to men a Law, but also a way |

of escape, for those Repentant Souls who |

might fall short of the glory of God's |

law. Which some scholars will agree, |

that the glory of God's law is that it's |

a divine precept of His own character. |

God's character is revealed in The Law. |

|

Now, Christ is the only hope for a world | e. Is Christ the Word of God?

that sins. Now, how do we know? Well -- |

The Prophets -- have prophesied? But |

what if we're not familiar with the |

prophets? Well, were the Jews familiar |

with the prophets when this Word-of-God |

was made flesh? When Mary, The Virgin, |

had a baby boy, did everyone believe, |

that she was really a virgin when Christ |

was conceived? |

|

If we search the Scriptures, we'll find | f. The Prophet's told.

in certain arguments the Pharisees con- |

fronted Christ -- and said to him, "We | John 8:41

be not sons born of fornication." So |

obviously, not everyone believed that he |

was a child of a virgin birth! If they | Prophets were ignored

hadn't looked back to Isaiah chapter 8, |

and learned the mystery of Immanuel | Isa. 7:14

-- that a virgin would conceive and bear |

a son -- then they might not really put |

too much ahhm... [con]sistency into the | <tape off & on>

fact that Christ at that day claimed to |

be born of a virgin. I mean, if Isaiah |

the prophet was a false prophet, well |

then naturally they would conclude that |

anyone claiming to have these things |

fulfilled would be false, too. |

|

But of course, Christ, he did something | g. Miracles confirm.

more, than to just fulfill prophecy. He |

did miracles. Miracles of mercy such as: |

healing the sick, feeding the hungry, |

raising the dead. And if we study we'll |

see that "Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John" |

gives us in somewhat, a full view of the |

oppositions, and also, the confidements, |

that he had in doing these miracles. He |

gathered many unto him through the means |

of these miracles. |

|

But sad to say, even though he had done | h. Those healed believed.

so many miracles, Scripture says, yet |

when it came right down to it, they did |

not believe in him. It's amazing to |

think that even his own disciples for- |

sook him -- except Mary Magdalene. She |

stayed with him to the very end, didn't |

she? Last to leave The Cross, first to |

come to the sepulchre. * Now, we need to | * <tape off & on>

sit here, and we need to ask ourselves |

the question, `how come the men of that |

generation did not believe in Christ?' |

|

In Matthew 23, Christ had to say to the | i. Christ confirmed by Prophets

Jews "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" how often | Mat. 23:37

I would have gathered you, but you would |

not. Why? He tells them that they have | Not re-gathered, since

forsaken The Prophets. "Thou that kill- | they've forsaken the

est the prophets," how often I would | Prophets. Has Christ

have gathered you. How does the subject | then told plainly how?

of `gathering Israel' and `the prophets' |

combine together? Then he tells them |

that their houses, their temple, is left | Mat. 23:38

to them desolate. |

| 4. Christ's Teachings on

| Last Things.

|

And that in Matthew 24, as Christ said | a. What signs of his coming?

on the Mount of Olives, his disciples | Mat. 24:1-2

came to him secretively to ask him, con- | Mat. 24:3

cerning these things. What should be the |

sign of thy coming and of the end of the |

world? Well, Christ begins to tell them, | Mat. 24:4

let no man deceive you, "For many shall | Mat. 24:5

come in my name, saying, I am Christ; |

and shall deceive many." |

|

A lot of bible students think that verse | b. Some willingly deceived?

refers to the people coming, and saying |

that they themselves are Christ. Well, |

naturally, if someone came claiming to |

be Christ... Christ covers that subject |

by saying that if any shall say, Lo he's |

"in the desert;" believe him not "go not | Mat. 24:26

forth." If he is in the secret chambers; |

"believe it not." |

|

But he goes on to say, that as lightning | c. Certain signs.

shines in the east, even to the west, | Mat. 24:27

so also shall his coming be. And he goes |

on to add, but "wheresoever the carcass | Mat. 24:28

is, there will the eagles be gathered |

together." | The carcass of Babylon?

|

Now, unless we knew what was on the mind | d. Eagle's Nest??

of Christ, the day he sat with his dis- |

ciples on the Mount of Olives, and gave |

the instruction to them according to |

Matthew 24; unless we could look into |

his mind, we would only have to specu- |

late, it would only be an opinion to try |

to figure out what it means, "wheresoev- | Mat. 24:28

er the carcase is, the eagles..." What |

carcass? Whose carcass? What eagles? |

What are the eagles? |

|

Well, Christ tells you of many signs in | e. Abomination of Desolation.

Matthew 24. He says, "when ye shall see | Mat. 24:15

the abomination of desolation, spoken of |

by Daniel the prophet, stand in the Holy |

Place, (of course, it says ye that read- |

eth, let him understand), those who are |

in Judea are supposed to flee to the | Mat. 24:16

mountains. |

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| 5. Christ points to the Prophets

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Now, what kind of points are these? What | a. Where to Get Insight.

is in the mind of Christ? Is Christ | 1 Cor. 2:16

trying to tell us, that we need to go |

back and study the prophet Daniel, to |

see if maybe Daniel had some insight, in |

regards to an abomination that maketh | Dan. 9:27 & 12:11

desolate? Now, an abomination is some- | A reference to any vileness

thing nobody wants; especially, if it | set up in place of God; the

makes us desolate. Now, what do these | result, wasted barrenness.

things mean? |

|

Well, we learned earlier in the Book of | b. Not his, but God's Teachings

John, Christ stated, "My doctrine is not | John 7:16

mine, but he who sent me." Now, we've |

got "Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John" (and | The Apostles

everybody in the Christian world his- | John 17:25

tory), to hear these men reveal Christ. | Mat. 27:55-56

The Christ they lived with. The Christ | Mark 15:37-40

they loved. The Christ that they didn't | Luke 24:10

understand sometimes. The Christ that | Mark 16:1,9

they had to see cruelly mocked, and | John 20:11-18

beaten, and ridiculed, and rejected, |

and killed. |

|

But, thanks be unto God on the Cross[!], | c. Christ's Expression of Love.

their Jesus, stated, "Father, forgive | Luke 23:34

them; for they know not what they do." |

And he also said, (which is the point |

that we're fixin' to get into quite hea- |

vily), "Father, into thy hand I commit | Luke 23:46 Psa. 31:5

my spirit." | Koresh says "commit" for

| "commend," same meaning.

|

Taking from Psalms 31, we begin to see | d. The words of God, Scripture.

that Christ is quite well versed in the |

Scriptures, just like the Gospels tell | Mat. 4:1-11

us, when he confronted the devil. Always | Luke 4:2-22

referring against the temptation by sta- | Mark 1:12,13

ting, "It is written, It is written, It |

is written." |

| 6. Is the Spirit Imparted

| Through the Written Word?

|

Now what is this Spirit of Christ? Well, | a. Sharing Blood and Flesh.

they pierced his side, and out his side | 1 John 5:6-8 John 19:34

came blood and water. Again another mys- | Mat. 26:26-29

tery. Which became something to do with | Heb. 9:18-23

eating his body, and drinking his blood, | 1 Cor. 10:16-17

some implements for The Church. | 1 Cor. 11:23-27

|

But, what does these things really mean? | b. Bathed in Righteousness.

Well, after we've read Acts and learned |

of the Power on Pentecost -- the "cloven | Acts 2:3

tongues of fire" -- that came upon the |

Apostles, who by mercy through Christ, |

were given another chance to recover |

from their folly; we learned through |

Romans that there is a righteousness of | Rom. 3:21-28

God in Christ, "declare his righteous- | Rom. 3:25

ness." | Jer. 23:6

|

We learn in Corinthians 1st and 2nd. We | c. Child of God.

learn in Ephesians, Galatians, and Phil- |

lipians... Ohh! We have such a wealth: |

of information, of such intelligent men, |

who speak sometimes, very deep mystical | Acts 17:27-31

things about a God -- who is in the form |

of humanity -- who is the Son of God who | A God within human hearts

sits at the right hand of God in the | and minds??

highest courts of the universe. Who pro- |

mises that one day, He will come again. |

|

| 7. Christ & Disciples Persecuted

|

Well, the last living Apostle, through | a. Pointing to Paul?

this great controversy... (and I might | 1 Cor. 9:1,2 & 15:9

add -- those who persecuted Christ, who | Acts 9:4 & 22:6-8

would not hear him no matter what sign | 1 Cor. 9:20-22

was given) ...also persecuted his disci- | Acts 9:1,13

ples. | Mat. 12:38 & 16:1

| Mark 8:11

|

And finally, we end up in the Book of | b. John's controversy -- The

Revelation, where John, (the last living | Testimony of Jesus Christ.

disciple on the isle of Patmos), being a |

prisoner for the Word of God and for the |

testimony of Jesus Christ -- which no | Rev. 1:9

doubt is a thing Jesus has to say. Which | Jer. 23:16

would probably be quite controversial to |

the things that the Pharisees and Sanhe- |

drin of the day had to say, we're sure. |

|

He, (being on this isle of Patmos a pri- | c. John's Vision.

soner, on the Lord's day), had a vision. | Rev. 1:10

And it states in this vision, (we should |

all be familiar with it hopefully -- or |

get familiar with it), he has a messen- | Rev. 1:11

ger, The Angel Lord come to him, who |

identifies himself as the Spirit. And he |

is told, to write to the seven churches | Rev. 1:19

of Asia. Of which, we can see clearly | Rev. 2 & 3

in the Scriptures, that they were given |

specific and direct * messages from | * <cell phone rings>

Christ. * And in each one of these mes- | * <tape off & on>

sages, Christ specifically told to the |

churches what he would have them to do. |

|

Now, we know that Christ is the only man | d. Christ also rejected.

in Scripture who ever kept The Law of | Heb. 4:15

God perfectly. We know that, because |

we've heard the writings of the apostles. |

But, sad to say, the religious leaders |

of his days, and the majority of the |

populace of his days, didn't think so. |

It's funny how that is. It's kind of | Mat. 23:27-34

like people always like to build the |

sepulchers of the dead prophets, and |

garnish their tombs, but yet they hate |

and kill living prophets. Only God knows |

why that is. But nonetheless... |

|

To the church (of Ephesus, Smyrna, [Per- | e. Counsel to the Churches.

gamos,] Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, |

Laodicea -- the churches thus involved, |

for anyone to read) direct counsel's gi- |

ven. Beginning with, "UNTO the angel | Rev. 2:1

of the church of Ephesus write; These |

things," (then... blah - blah), and what | Likely missed in editing.

happens is this message is given. |

|

And then the decision is up to those who | f. Those who overcome.

profess Christ. Each counsel ends with, | Rev. 2:7,11,17,29

"he that hath an ear..." -- to hear -- | Rev. 3:6,13,22

(only if you want to know) "let him hear |

what the Spirit saith unto the churches." |

Koresh Text from 3-02 (part 2 of 4) | Analysts' Notes jst/sdt

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: II. Book of Seven Seals.

| A. John's account.

|

Finally, we get to the fourth chapter of | 1. Throne Room.

Revelation. And the student of Scripture |

becomes interested in the subject, which |

according to John says, "After..." these |

things, (of course, he was referring to | Rev. 3:20

the last part of the 3rd chapter, of the | "I stand at the door

message to Laodicea). | and knock..."

|

He says after these things, <I fol...> | 2. John Enters Heaven.

"And, behold, a door was open in heaven: | Rev. 4:1

and the first voice which" spake to me |

"as it were of a trumpet," talked with | Col. 4:3

me; which says, "come up hither, and I |

will shew" you that "which must be here- |

after." |

|

Now, the question to every true Chris- | 3. Do You Believe?

tian is this: Is John telling it as a |

truth, or is John lying to us? We know |

he just gave counsels to the 7 churches |

of Asia, (which were alive and hopefully |

in good health, when he first gave these |

letters to them). But nonetheless, they |

being of Asia, are no wise the same peo- |

ple of us today, or even of the oncoming |

years thereafter. |

|

So, the events of Chapter 4, clearly ex- | 4. A Vision of the hereafter.

plained by John, that his messenger as |

sent to him stated that he'd be taken up | Rev. 4:1

* hither -- therefore a Door opened into | * <tape off & on>

Heaven (the Bible records), and he would |

be shown things which must be hereafter, |

* sometimes after John's day. | * <child murmurs>

|

| B. Judgment Room.

|

Now what does he behold? In chapter 4 of | 1. John in the Spirit.

Revelation, he says that he was in the |

spirit, "immediately I was in the spirit: | Rev. 4:2

and, behold, a throne was set in heaven." |

And h e states that the throne was occu- |

pied, "one sat on the throne." |

|

And, He that sat upon the Throne, which | 2. Is God the throne?

[was] "lined" with jasper and sardine | Heb. 1:8

stone. A careful student of Scripture, | The Rock -- symbol of Law

knows, all the way through prophecy, all |

the way through the Bible, as far back |

as the days of Genesis, even to the pro- | Deu. 32:4,15,18

phecy of Deuteronomy 32, where it says, | 2 Sam. 22:32 Psa. 31:2,3

God is a rock -- `He is a Rock.' And his | Isa. 8:14, 17:10, 44:8

work is done in truth and righteousness | 1 Cor. 10:4

-- all the prophets refer to God as a | 1 Pet. 2:6

Rock. |

|

Now here we see in Revelation John like- | 3. In & Around the Throne.

wise witnesses God has the appearance of | Rev. 4:3

a jasper and sardine stone. He claims | Eze. 1:26

that there was a rainbow round about the |

throne in sight like an emerald. He care-|

fully saw that there were living crea- | Rev. 4:6-9

tures around the throne saying that God |

is "holy, holy, holy ... which was, and | Rev. 4:8

is, and is to come." A God, who created |

all things, for His pleasure they were | Rev. 4:11

and are created." |

|

Now, this instruction emphasizes, that | 4. 24 Elders.

there is a God, a kingdom, a judiciary, |

(in the respect that John witnesses that | Rev. 4:4

there are 24 elders, sitting on 24 |

thrones, seems to imply a judgment). But | the Prophets & Apostles

uniquely enough in this judgment, or in |

this throne, (or in `this heavenly sanc- | Heb. 8:1-5

tuary,' as we see from the writings of |

Paul, the Apostle), Paul talks about the | Heb. 12:22 (12:18-29)

heavenly sanctuary, the heavenly Sion. | Deu. 4:48

|

In this sanctuary we see a God, a rain- | 5. Mystery of Christ.

bow, a throne; living creatures stating | Eph. 3:4,9

that God is holy; which was, and is, and | Rev. 4:7-8

is-to-come -- God of the past, present, | Eze. 1:10

and future. And that this God, who is | Rev. 4:11

the Creator of all things, is holy and | Col. 1:9-20

deserves to be worshipped. | Col. 1:25-27

|

| C. Sealed Book

|

We continue on in chapter 5, to see that | 1. Scroll.

I beheld, John says, "in the right hand | Rev. 5:1

of him that sat on the throne a book" or |

a scroll -- "sealed with seven seals." |

(Notice, it's written on the inside and |

the backside.) Well the meaning of these |

things can only be speculated, until we |

have solid proof, in other words, unless |

we were there ourselves to see it, in |

detail. |

|

But, what we are allowed to see in the | 2. Congregation.

Scripture, (as John also beholds) [is] a |

mighty angel. In this throne room were | Rev. 5:2

all these angels, "[ten] thousand times | Rev. 5:11

ten thousand, and thousands of thou- | Psa. 68:17-18

sands," are called together. | Dan. 7:10

|

And, this mighty angel questions all | 3. Mighty Angel Prosecutes.

those in heaven, "Who is worthy to open | Rev. 5:2

this book, and to loose the seven seals |

thereof?" Clearly Scripture states, "no | Rev. 5:3

man in heaven, [nor in] earth, neither |

under the earth" (of course `buried' in |

other words, we do have dead in this |

world, you know), was worthy to open |

"neither to look thereon." |

|

So hey! God says in Scripture, at least | a. God's living Book,

John testifies, in Scripture, that the | written in our hearts?

Mystery of God -- His Book -- is sealed. |

|

Well, what happens is, as we continue on | 4. One Worthy to Judge.

we see in Chapter 5, that John begins to | a. John's sorrow.

weep until one of the elders says, "Weep | Rev. 5:4

not" John "behold, the Lion of the Tribe | b. The Lion.

of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevail-| Rev. 5:5

ed to open the book, and to loose [the |

seven] seals thereof." (Of which we know |

the Lamb, being a symbol of Christ, is | c. The Lamb.

brought to view.) |

|

And, John beheld a lamb, that had been | d. Is the Lamb, King?

slain "in the midst of the throne and of | Rev. 5:6

the four beasts," and the elders, with | 1 John 5:7

seven eyes and seven horns. Well, what's | Father, Spirit, Word???

the meaning of these things? |

|

If God, does have a revelation of Jesus | 5. God's Book is the Evidence.

Christ, which he gives to him to show to |

his servants, then here we begin to see | a. Another pointer to Jesus.

the meaning of these things. We see that |

God has a Book, which must be hereafter, |

(sometime after John's day; can-not be |

before John's day). The event is clearly |

identified as [one] which must be in the |

hereafter. And in this event, there's a |

Judgment that takes place. |

|

The Question -- `Who is worthy?' (The | 6. Innocent Victim.

answer, `No man.') The Answer to this -- |

`Only the Lamb.' So, [in] Scripture the | Jesus Christ is a man.

Lamb comes to the One on the Throne and | Rev. 5:7

takes the Book out of his Right Hand, | Rom. 8:34

and all of heaven bows before Him, and | Rev. 5:8,14

gives Him glory and honor. And then John | Who is the Lamb?

beheld the Lamb, in Chapter 6, beginning |

to OPEN THE SEALS. |

|

| D. Overview of the Seals.

|

Now, I've heard a lot of statements the | 1. Let the Record Show.

past couple of days, from people that |

are versed in Scripture, from people |

that are students of the Bible, saying |

this and saying that about the meaning | a. Message or Seal??

of these seals. But remember, we already |

see that in heaven, Christ, when he |

reveals the seals -- He is the only one |

that can do so. And remember, it's al- |

ready been said it's a revelation of | b. Father, Holy Spirit, and Son

Him, so there's a mystery between God |

the Father, His Book, and Christ, and | c. No doubt Koresh is Christian

what He is to reveal. |

|

What Scripture does tell us though, is | 2. First Seal.

that John beheld The Lamb open the 1st | a. Thunder? Perhaps a clue.

seal in chapter 6, there was a noise of | Rev. 6:1

thunder, and one of the 4 beast said |

come and see. John witnessed... <excuse |

me>. John witnessed that when he opened |

the 1st seal, there was "behold a white | b. The rider on the white horse

horse:" and he that sat up on him had a | Rev. 6:2

crown, a bow was given to him, "and he | Is this rider good or evil?

went forth conquering, and to conquer." |

|

Well, how does this reveal Christ? Oh, | c. Speculations.

well, a lot of people will tell you this |

was the early christian church. The | a hint

white horse is a symbol of purity. Some | 2 Cor. 4:2,3,12-18

even say this is the anti-christ, but |

now wait a minute. A lot of opinions | opinions

have been given on this subject. |

| 3. Second Seal.

So also on the 2nd seal. The man on the | a. The rider on the red horse

red horse has a great sword, going forth | Rev. 6:4

(you know) killing one another... I mean |

come on! Is this a revelation of Jesus | What is the message from God

Christ? | being revealed by Christ?

:

: <odd break in flow of presentation>

:

| 4. An Executive Overview:

|

o [The first seal] | a. Rev. 6:2 (ie The 1st Seal)

|

One who has "a bow", "conquering and | The march of governments??

to conquer" -- sounds like war. | But we are more than

| conqerors. Rom. 8:37 (31-39)

|

o And the 2nd seal. | b. Rev. 6:4 (cf. 1:16)

|

"A great sword", "that they should | Truth wielded as a weapon,

kill one another" -- sounds terrible. | but not in love -- cuts both

| ways. Eph. 4:15

|

o The 3rd seal. | c. Rev. 6:5-6 (cf. 9:4)

|

[The] "man on a black horse," has bal- | Not worth selling your

ances. You know. What's this wheat and | birthright or your soul for.

barley stuff? "Hurt not the oil and | Mat. 16:26 Mar. 8:36,37

the wine." | Luk. 21:34 Heb. 12:15,16

| Deu. 29:17-20

|

o The 4th seal. | d. Rev. 6:7,8 (cf. 1:17,18)

|

"A pale horse," [and the] name of the | Fear not, the Son of man

one who sits on there is Death, and | holds the keys to hell

Hell follows him. How can these things | and death.

reveal Christ? | 1 John 4:18

|

o The 5th seal. | e. Rev. 6:9-11 (cf. 7:14)

|

Souls under [the] altar crying to God | Rom. 8:35,36

to avenge their blood which was shed | So, so many impatient

upon the earth. I mean, what is this? | children under foot.

| How many times...

|

| Rev. 1:9 2:2,3,19

| 3:10 13:10

| 14:12 22:11

| Mat. 18:23-35

| Luke 8:15 21:19

| Rom. 5:3,4 8:25 15:4,5

| 2 Cor. 6:4 12:12

| Col. 1:11

| 1 The. 1:3

| 2 The. 1:4

| 1 Tim. 6:11

| 2 Tim. 3:10

| Heb. 6:12 10:36 12:1

| Jam. 1:3,4 5:7,10,11

| 2 Pet. 1:6

| Tit. 2:2

|

o The 6th seal. | f. Rev. 6:12-17

|

Suns and stars being darkened. The hea-| Joel 2:31 Psa. 102:26

vens depart as a scroll. The sons of | Rev. 6:14

men crying to the rocks and mountains | Isa. 34:4 Heb. 1:10-12

to hide them from the face of the One | Rev. 6:16 (cf. 1:16)

who sets upon the Throne. I mean, The |

One who sets upon the Throne -- that's | Perhaps they hide in an

The Father, that's The Rock, isn't it? | effort to shield themselves

What can these things mean? | from the glory of the Lord.

|

| Gen. 3:8

| Exo. 3:2-4 19:18

| 24:17 33:20-23

| 34:34,35

| Deu. 4:11,12,24 9:3

| Psa. 37:6 97:3-6

| Isa. 30:26

| Dan. 7:9

| Nah. 1:5,6

| Hab. 3:3-5

| Zec. 14:12

|

| Acts 26:13

| Heb. 12:18,25-29

| 2 The. 1:7-10

| 1 Pet. 4:12

| 2 Pet. 3:7-12

| 1 Joh. 1:5

|

| Rev. 14:10-12,18 16:7,8

|

o The 7th seal is opened. | g. Rev. 8:3

|

And all of a sudden `the angel at the | Rev. 6:9 8:3-5 9:2,13

altar.' Then we begin to see the open- | Rev. 11:1 14:18 16:7,8

ing of the trumpets. |

|

Remember now, the 7th seal, contains all | 5. Key Bestowed by God.

the information from that point -- to |

the rest of the Bible. The trumpets con- |

tain a very interesting and unique story,|

but remember, we've got to understand |

`how to find the key' to interpret these |

things -- not with our opinions, but |

with the Mind of God. And no one can do | 1 Cor. 2:16

that, unless we have the Spirit of God. | John 6:63 16:13

And no one can have that, unless God | Psa. 119:50

gives it to us. | 1 The. 3:13

| 2 Cor. 3:3

| Eph. 4:30

|

Now let me review. | E. A Short Review.

|

Notice how during the 6th seal, the | 1. In Seal 6 -- Who Can Stand?

question is asked in the time of God's | (note this)

apparent wrath, who shall be able to |

stand? "For the [great] day of his wrath | Rev. 6:17

is come; and who shall be able to stand?"| Psa. 76:7

|

Notice, how that in, the next chapter, | 2. Sealing the 144,000.

chapter 7, NOT an additional seal is | the tribulation harvest

opened, but an answer. John sees that he |

beheld "four angels standing on the four | Rev. 7:1 9:4

corners of the earth, holding the four |

winds of the earth, that the wind should | Rev. 9:4 8:7

not blow on the earth, nor on the [sea, | James 1:11 Deu. 29:23

nor on any tree.]" | <tape garbled>

|

And he saw an "angel ascending from the | 3. Seal of the Living God

east, having the seal of The Living | Rev. 7:2 9:4 14:1

God:" What could that seal be? Who is | 2 Cor. 1:21,22 3:3

The Living God? Is the Living God the | Eph. 1:13 4:30

One on the Throne? Does the Living God | 2 Tim. 2:19

have something that we need to know? | Exo. 13:9,16

Does the Living God have some kind of | Deu. 6:8 11:18

seal? What could the SEAL be? We know |

there's seven seals, but that's sealed. | Son, Spirit, Word ???

No one can know that, but Christ. Well, | Doesn't the sun rise in

who is that angel from the east? | the east?

|

Yes, in Matthew 24, a lot of ministers | 4. Risen Son.

confront me and say, there will be many |

false prophets in the latter days. For | Mat. 24:3,11

remember, Christ told his disciples |

then, that when they see the "abomina- | Mat. 24:15

tion of desolation," as spoken of by the | Dan. 9:27, 12:11

Prophet Daniel, they would understand |

something. And he also said, that when | Mat. 24:23,26

they shall say `[he's] in the desert...' |

[then] go not forth, `he's in the secret |

chamber, believe it not.' For as light- | Mat. 24:27

ning in the east, shall shine unto the | Rev. 10:1

west; so also [shall the ] Son of man be.| Zec. 9:14

|

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| F. The 7th Seal.

|

[When the] 7th seal opens -- there's | 1. Trumpets.

silence. And 7 angels and 7 trumpets pre-| Rev. 8:1 (7 & 8 cf. 14)

pare themselves to sound. And it appears | Rev. 8:2,6

that some terrible plagues takes place. | Rev. 8:7-13 9:1-12

What could these things mean? Well, just |

as there was an interruption under the |

6th seal, so is there an interruption | Rev. 9:13

under the 6th trumpet. Under the 6th |

trumpet we learn about a mighty army of | Rev. 9:16

200 million. What are they doing? |

|

Well, we see, that during the break of | 2. 7th Angel(?)

this in chapter 10, a Mighty Angel comes | Rev. 10:1

down from heaven, "clothed with a cloud, | Rev. 1:7 14:14 Mat. 26:64

.. his face ... as it were the sun ... |

his feet are pillars of fire" and he has | Rev. 10:2

"in his hand a little book opened." He | Rev. 5:7

puts his right foot on the [sea], left | Koresh reversed earth & sea

foot on the [earth] and cries and a lion | Rev. 10:3

roars. And when he had cried, "seven | Dan. 12:4,10

thunders uttered their voices." Now what |

are these 7 thunders? What do these |

things mean? How do we categorize this |

book? What are we really looking at? |

Well... | <side 1 of source tape ends>

|

Remember, it is the Revelation of Jesus | 3. "I Do Solemnly Swear."

Christ, which God gave to Him, and re- | a. Another pointer to Jesus.

member the most fearful warning, ever |

given to man in Scripture is the warning | Rev. 22:15

found in Revelation 22, where Christ | Rev. 22:18

says, "For I testify to every man that |

hears the word of this prophecy: If any | "Let none of you imagine

man should add to the words of this | evil in your hearts against

prophecy, God shall ADD unto him the | his neighbor"

plagues that are written in this pro- | Rev. 22:19

phecy. And, if any man shall take away | 1 Peter 2:1-25

from the words of this prophecy, God | Zec. 8:16,17

shall take away his name OUT of the | Pro. 3:29,30

Lamb's Book of Life, and from the things |

in prophecy." |

|

Now that's fearful. That means the book | 4. Orderings.

is not to be messed with or pranked with |

by anybody who would dare, think, that |

they, can by speculation, or private |

opinions, unlock the mysteries of the | Rev. 22:10...

seals and what they contain. Remember |

the events of the 7th seal, contained | "Seal not the sayings of

from the 7th chapter on -- the trumpets | the prophecy of this book"

and the information thereof, just as the |

6th seal contains information thereof. |

|

Well then, what must be hereafter, after | 5. Hereafter.

John's day? A revelation of who? Who |

gave it to him? Who only can reveal it, |

(Revelation 22)? Who's going to come? | Rev. 22:12,17,20

What's he going to bring, his reward? | Rev. 22:12

What is his reward? Is it true in Isaiah | Isa. 62:11 40:10

40 & 41 that, He's going to come with a |

strong hand? Who is the "Behold my ser- | Isa. 42:1 40:10+

vant, whom I uphold?" What do these |

things mean? |

| G. The First Seal.

|

Well, we know in the 1st seal, that | 1. Rider on the White Horse.

Christ opens it and we hear the noise of | Rev. 6:1-2

thunder. One of the 4 beasts says, "Come |

and see." And behold a white horse. "He |

that sat upon him had a bow; [and] a | Zec. 9:13

crown was given unto him: and he went |

forth conquering, and to conquer." |

|

Well, in order to understand this seal, | 2. Christ's Secret.

we have to find out a secret about |

Christ. * In the counsel to the church | * <tape off & on>

of Philadelphia, we see Christ addresses |

that church in chapter 3 of Revelation, |

with this message: "And to the angel of | Rev. 3:7

the church of Philadelphia write; These |

things saith he that is holy ... he that |

hath the key of David, he that openeth, |

and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and |

no man openeth." |

|

Well, what does he mean to this church, | 3. Key to the Door.

"I ... set before thee an open door, and | Rev. 3:8

no man can shut it: for thou hast a lit- |

tle strength?" What could this mean? |

What is the Key-of-David? Isaiah 22 | Isa. 22:20

talks about the Key-of-David, but it re- |

fers to "Eliakim." But still, what is |

the Key-of-David? |

|

Well, of ancient times, Christ being the | 4. God's Chosen King.

root and offspring of David. David was a | 2 Sam. 7

great king in Israel. And David was | (God's covenant with David)

anointed of God, being a shepherd lad. |

But through the power of God he was able | 1 Sam. 17

to overthrow, the greatest obstacle in |

his day, Goliath, the Philistine. sing |

5 smooth stones, he chose one, and it | Zec. 9:15,16

sunk deep into the forehead of the giant.|

|

Well, what happens is this. We see that | 5. Psalms Record.

this David wrote 150 Psalms that are | Luke 24:44...

published in most Bibles of today's | establishes correlation

modern world. Now I say that because | - Law of Moses

some scholars will agree, that there are | - The Prophets

other psalms, too. But as far as the | - Psalms

King James, and the books of that cali- |

ber, we have 150 psalms. |

|

Well, our subject is the 1st seal. We | 6. Prophet's Account.

don't want to have any opinions, though. | Mat. 7:12

We just want to simply... see if we |

can't find the mystery of God in the |

prophets. |

|

| H. The 1st Seal in Light of

| The 45th Psalm.

|

Well, let's turn in our Bible to Psalm | 1. God's writing.

45, and let's see if we can't get some |

kind of hint in regards to what the 1st |

seal is. * It states here (this is the | * <tape off and on>

King James Version) -- "my heart is | Psa. 45:1

inditing a good matter. I speak of the |

things which I have made, touching the |

king." What could it possibly mean? What |

does it mean, "my heart is inditing a | "indite" (rhet.) -- to write

good matter?" Does that mean "my heart | down (a poem, speech, etc.)

is inditing a good matter?" Is some- |

body's heart inditing a good matter? | Heb. 8:10 10:16

"I speak of things I have made touching |

the king." Does that mean by interpre- | Is this about God's Law (His

tation "I speak of the things I have | righteousness), written in

made touching the king?" Is our subject | our own hearts and minds (as

about a king? Is our subject about some- | a new covenant)? Writing as

body's heart? Is our subject about "my | in Speaking The Word -- a

tongue is the pen of a ready writer?" | new "Living God" being born?

|

Now, who is talking here? Well, natural- | 2. David Anticipates.

ly David of Old is talking here -- cor- |

rect? Well, who is the king he's talking |

about? Solomon?? Well, let's see. "Thou | Psa. 45:2

art fairer than the children of men: | (also compare Psa. 72)

grace is poured into thy lips: therefore |

God has blessed thee for ever." Well, |

Solomon was a wise man wasn't he? Ok, it |

says here, "Gird thy sword upon thy | Psa. 45:3

thigh, O most mighty, [] with thy glory |

and thy majesty." "And in thy majesty | Psa. 45:4

ride prosperously because of truth ..." |

|

I wonder what Solomon rides? Probably, | 3. Rider.

rides a horse, doesn't he? "...and meek- |

ness and righteousness; and thy right | Rev. 19:11

hand shall teach thee terrible things." |

Huh? I guess with a sword in you right |

hand, you could learn a lot of terrible |

things. Whoa (in verse 5), "Thine arrows | Psa. 45:5

are sharp in the heart of the King's |

enemies; whereby the people fall under |

thee." Hmmm. Solomon doesn't seem really |

like too nice of a guy. That is if |

you're enemy. |

|

But anyway, "Thy throne, O God, is for | 4. Thy Throne, Thy God.

.." (Huh? Wait a minute!) "Thy throne, | Psa. 45:6

O God is for ever and..." (Now, wait a |

minute.) Is David saying that Solomon is |

God? No, he's probably just saying that |

God is God. Huh. Well, why would a pro- |

phecy about Solomon have to do with |

God's throne? "Thy throne, O God, is for | Heb. 1:8

ever and ever: the sceptre of thy king- |

dom is a right sceptre. Though lovest | Psa. 45:7

righteousness, and hateth wickedness: |

therefore God, thy God..." (Wait a min- |

ute.) "...therefore God, thy God," what |

could this possibly mean? Who is what |

God? "Thy God, hath anointed thee with | Psa. 89:20

the oil of gladness above thy fellows." | Heb. 1:9

This is very strange, or is it? |

|

Well, let's look at it again a little | 5. Key to God's Heart.

closer. Scripture says that David was a | "again"

man after God's own heart. (Although | 1 Sam. 13:14

David transgressed, and that in no wise | Acts 13:22

is like God's Heart.) But nonetheless, |

David was a prophet, and he was in- |

spired. Could it be that David was used |

by God to write down God's messages that |

would one day be revealed by Christ? If | Recall Psa. 45:1:

Christ does have the Key-of-David, would | "My heart is inditing..."

he not be able to reveal -- the Heart of | "My tongue is the pen..."

God? |

|

God in heaven looks to be a Rock, does- | 6. The Law yields to Love.

n't he? `Oh hard rock God, right. God's | Rev. 4:3

long, God's hard...' but wait a minute. | Song lyrics perhaps??

Through Christ we can see that God is |

not as hard as you think he is. Look at | Rev. 4,5,6

God. Come up hither, in the light of | Keeping heart and mind

the judgment, and see the Father on the | on high.

throne. See the book in his right hand, |

and watch him give it to Christ, and |

watch him open the 1st seal. And let's |

see about this man on the white horse |

who has a crown and a bow. |

|

Now, God is the one who has written, "My | 7. From the Heart.

heart is inditing a good matter: I speak | Psa. 45:1

of things which I have made..." Is God a |

maker? Is he Creator? What does he want | Isa. 45:6-12,18

to talk about? [The] things he's made | When God talks things

touching the king. Who is the king? | happen, as in:

Could it be Christ? "My tongue is the | "Let there be light!"

pen of a ready writer." Did God write a | Rev. 19:15

book? Does God want to talk about His | Isa. 29:11-12,18

Son according to a Book? Well, what does | Rev. 21:27

God then think about His Son? |

|

"Thou art fairer than the children of | 8. Living Word.

men." Well, if that's what God thinks? | Psa. 45:2

Although, Isaiah 53 says, that they will | Isa. 53:2

see in him no beauty or desire him; God, |

nevertheless says, "He is fairer than | Gen. 2:7

the children of men." Why?! "Grace, is | John 1:1-5

poured into thy lips." Huh? I guess |

whatever Christ says, those who hear it, |

will find grace, won't they. Therefore, |

"God has blessed thee for ever." | All ye who heed the Word.

|

Well. "Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O | 9. Inheritance.

most mighty." Is Christ the most mighty? | Psa. 45:3 Eph. 1:17-23

"With thy glory and thy majesty," I mean | Isa. 2:21

it seems like in Revelation all of Heav- |

en bowed before the Lamb, did they not? |

That's a lot of glory. "For thou were | Rev. 5:12,13

slain to receive power, honour, glory, | Rev. 7:9-12

riches, wisdom, kingdom, might," Oooh! |

That's a lot of inheritance there. Espe- |

cially in the Gospel when it says, "I | John 3:35

have received all * things from my | * < cell phone rings>

Father. | John 13:3 Mark 28:18

|

"And in thy majesty ride prosperously | 10. White Horse or Red Herring?

because of truth." * So what could this | Psa. 45:4

truth be? What truth, in the Bible talks | * <tape off & on>

about riding a horse prosperously, and |

its truth? Could it be Revelation? Could | Rev. 6:2 ??

it be the 1st seal? Maybe a truth about | Rev. 19:11

Christ? Maybe a truth about him being a | Rev. 19:12

king, (which is a crown)? Could it be a |

truth, about him having a horse, riding, |

conquering, and to conqueror? Huh. | Christ or anti-christ??

|

So because of truth, the truth of God's | 11. God's Spirit Indwelling.

Book, the heart intention of He's indit- | 2 Cor. 3:2-3

ed. His tongue is the pen of a ready |

writer. And he doesn't say nothing in | God's actions.

the judgement. You see, He just gives it |

to the Lamb. And, you know the Lamb: | Rev. 19:13-16,21

rides prosperously; writes in truth, in |

meekness and righteousness, "And thy | Isa. 35:5,8,16,17

right hand shall teach thee terrible |

things." Oooh. Well, what's that in his | Rev. 5:1

right hand -- a sword or a book? | Heb. 4:12-14

|

Well, what does this book teach? `My ar- | 12. Raised from the Dead.

rows are sharp in the heart of the kings | Psa. 45:5

enemies.' Surely, Solomon... was he a |

killer? Did he kill for God? Christ, is | David's heirs.

he a killer? Did he kill for God? Will | Eph. 1:17-18,19-23 2:3

Christ ever destroy the wicked, whereby | Which is his body, the

the people fall under the <garble>? | Church, of those previ-

What kind of gospel is this? | ously dead in sin.

|

"Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:| 13. Throne.

Is Christ God? "The sceptre of thy king- | Psa. 45:6

dom is a right sceptre." I mean, does he | Heb. 1:8

deserve to rule? Why? |

|

Does he love righteousness and hate wick-| 14. Made Glad.

edness? Therefore God... is not Christ's | Psa. 45:7

God... thy God? Is not his God -- the | Heb. 1:9

Father? Is he not going to anoint him |

above (with oil of gladness) above his | Isa. 61:3

fellows? What is this oil of gladness? | Psa. 89:20

|

"All thy garments smell of myrrh, and | 15. Garments.

aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory | Psa. 45:8

palaces," what about it made thee glad? |

I mean, should Christ ever be made glad? | Eph. 5:24,30-32

Where's this at? When's this take place? | Do you hear wedding bells?

|

"Kings' daughters were among the honour- | 16. Daughters.

able women." What's that? "Upon thy | Psa. 45:9

right hand did stand the queen in gold | def. "Ophir" -- (red dust?)

of Ophir. "How can this be Christ? | Solomon's gold from

Christ is God. What would he be doing | this region in Arabia?

with a woman? Well, maybe she's the | Rev. 12

church. Maybe she's the spiritual | Rev. 1:20

church. Well, who's the king's daughters | Eph. 2:13-22

then? Hmmm. Maybe there's more than one | "Builded together for an

church. | habitation of God through

| the Spirit."

|

Well, whatever it may be, we know in | 17. Bride Considers Proposal.

verse 10, whether it's a spiritual | Psa. 45:10

church, or a literal woman, there's one |

thing required. "Hearken, O daughter, |

and consider..." Consider what? Consider | "Think" about it.

God's heart inditing in good matter. |

Consider Who the King is. Consider who's |

going to be the Powerful One. Who's go- |

ing to win, considering about the Throne |

of God. Considering maybe Revelation -- | Is God's Book a mystery??

who the Father gives The Book to. | Eph. 5:32

|

"Incline thine ear; forget also thine | 18. Breaking Ties.

own people, and thy father's house." | Psa. 45:10 continued

Well, if this was a spiritual church, it |

would seem kind of funny, for God to | Eph. 3:1-4,9-11 1 Pet. 3:22

tell the spiritual church, to forget her |

own people, (which would be her denomi- |

nation of the Father's house), which |

would be..., well I thought her father | Eph. 5:6-8

would be God, if it were spiritual? | Col. 3:6

|

Now, if it were a literal girl, "Hear- | 19. New Name.

ken, O daughter ... consider ... incline | Psa. 45:10 cont.

thine ear;" then we can understand na- | "listen"

turally. If a girl is going to marry a | Isa. 62:5

man, she has to uproot [from] one family,| Mat. 19:4-6 Mar. 10:7

and join to another. Not completely, but | Mat. 19:29

we understand what we're saying. So if | "learn"

she wants to listen and learn; so should | Psa. 45:11

"the king greatly desire thy beauty: for | Eph. 5:23

he is thy Lord, and worship thou him." |

|

"And the daughter of Tyre shall be there | 20. Radiant Beauty.

with a gift." Who's Tyre? Wonder what | Psa. 45:12 (Zep. 2:15)

that is? "Even the rich among the people | def. "Tyre" -- (rock)

shall intreat thy favour." Rich people | city now Sur, Lebanon

want to intreat the favor of this queen? | Eze. 28 (and 26 & 27)

"The king's daughter is all glorious | Psa. 45:13

within." How did she become the king's |

daughter? "Within?" Why is she glorious |

within? Does she have a truth, or some- | Isa. 62:1-2

thin'? Is there some kind of light she |

has within her? |

|

Her clothes are of "wrought gold." She | 21. Prospect of Children.

is to be brought to the king in raiment | Psa. 45:14 (cf. Eze. 16:10)

of needlework: "the virgins her compan- | Isa. 61:10

ions that follow her shall be brought | Mat. 25:1-13

unto thee." With gladness and rejoicing | Psa. 45:15

shall they be brought. They should enter |

into the king's palace." Instead of thy |

fathers, it shall be thy children." Now, | Psa. 45:16

what does that mean? |

|

Well, let's break this down. If Christ | 22. Children for God.

is the Son of God, if that's the case, | Heb. 2:1

and if we all are sons of God -- if we | 2 Cor. 6:16-18

believe in Christ, then naturally every | Hos. 1:10

girl would be a daughter of God wouldn't |

she? Well, we look up to the Father on |

the Throne, of which we want to exalt. |

We know that He is greater than all. And |

He's Christ's Father, and He's also |

everyones Father. And Psalms 83 says, | Psa. 82:6 (should be)

God says, I say you are gods, "and all |

of you are children of the most High." |

|

Hosea teaches us, that we're to say, "Ye | 23. King and Law.

are not my people." There it should be | Hos. 1:9,10 2:23

said, "Ye are the sons of the living |

God." So Christ says in the Gospels, "if | John 10:35

he called them gods, unto whom the word |

of God came," the Law can not be broken. |

|

Well, we're ruining God's Word -- it's | 24. Word and Spirit.

God's Spirit. This is what makes us | Eph. 6:17 Rev. 1:16 19:15

become born again, born by the Spirit, | 1 Pet. 1:22-23

the knowledge of God. Well... so, a girl |

believes in God, and so does everybody |

else that believes in God. So therefore |

God the Father has many children doesn't |

He. Christ being the firstborn, and ... | Col. 1:18

all thereafter that believe. But instead |

of "thy fathers," it should be "thy chil-| Psa. 45:16

dren, whom thou mayest make princes in |

all the earth." |

|

To the person that really doesn't under- | 25. Birth of Human Spirit.

stand Scripture, this would seem to be |

a very controversial subject. I mean, |

Christ never had any wife, [thus it] has | Historically, that is.

to be Spiritual. I'll make thy name "re- | Psa. 45:17 Psa. 72:17

membered in all generations: therefore |

shall the people praise thee for ever |

and ever." |

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| I. The 1st Seal in the Light

| of Revelation 19.

|

Well even if it is Spiritual we know one | 1. Triangulation.

thing. We know -- that the servants of |

God know -- that Psalm 45, is the very |

prophecy which must be hereafter accord- |

ing to the 1st seal. But just to make |

sure we know it's going to be fulfilled, |

let's turn in our Bible to REVELATION | Yep. It's a sermon.

19. (Just so that we can get a better |

caption of what we are really looking |

at.) |

|

Now remember, in the 18th chapter of | 2. Babylon "The Great."

Revelation, we know that Babylon the | Rev. 18

Great falls. She made all nations drink | Eze. 26,27,28

of some kind of wine of the wrath of her | Isa. 13:19-20

fornication. Now, we find that something |

very bad happens, and then in verse 23 |

of Chapter 18 -- no more: light of the | Rev. 18:23

candles shall shine there, nor the voice | Isa. 23:8

of the bridegroom, nor the voice of the | Eze. 26,27,28

bride. |

|

Well, the merchants, who are the great | 3. "Great Men" of the Earth.

men of the earth, it says in verse 23, | Rev. 18:23 cont.

and for by their sorceries were all the | Zep. 1:10-11

nations deceived. We all know about -- |

capitalization. We know about advertise- | Amos 8:4-7

ment selling something, making it better |

than what it really is. For here is | Rev. 18:24

found the blood of prophets, and saints, | Hos. 12:7

"and of all that were slain upon the |

earth." You see, just because people |

don't accept the truth from God's Word |

does not mean it's not Truth? And some |

truth that we might teach can get us in | Such as, truth without love.

trouble. |

|

But anyway, in 1st verse, Chapter 19, it | 4. The Gallery Cheers.

says, and "after these things I heard a | Rev. 19:1

great voice of much people in heaven, |

saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, |

and honour, and power, unto the Lord our |

God." Why? "For true and righteous are | Rev. 19:2

his judgments." I wonder what his judg- |

ments were? |

|

Isaiah 51 talked about judgments of God. | 5. Righteous Judgment.

Says something about, "HEARKEN to me, ye | Isa. 51:1

that seek after righteousness, ye that |

seek the LORD: look unto the rock where- |

by you're hewn." Again, remember in | Rev. 4:3

Revelation -- God's a rock. If God is a | Deu. 32:31

rock, he's the only one who can make us | 1 Sam. 2:2

new, right? And it says, "look to the | 2 Sam. 22:2,32

[hole of the] pit," from which you're | Psa. 18:2,31 28:1 42:9

dug. | Psa. 62:2,6 71:3 78:35

| 1 Cor. 10:4

|

In Isaiah 51, it talks about Abraham and | 6. A Living Law.

promises of God. Then it says, "Hearken | Isa. 51:2-3

unto me, my people; and give ear unto me,| Isa. 51:4

O my nation: for a law shall proceed |

from me, and I will make my judgment to |

rest for a light [of] the people." | Koresh says "to."

|

Now, we know that [what] the Law of God | 7. Forgive Them.

commands is the 10 Commandments, but we |

know when God sent His Son into the |

world, he was the Law made flesh. And | Gal. 3:17

although he kept the law perfectly; |

nonetheless, he also forgave based on |

men's ignorance. "Father, forgive them | Luke 23:34 1 Cor. 2:8

for they know not what they do." But he |

also committed his Spirit into the hands | Luke 23:46

of God, so that none would be without | Psa. 31:5 1 Pet. 2:23

excuse. |

|

We all know on the right hand of God | 8. The Whore is Judged.

there's more light... more light, to | Not just thunderbolts.

be known. So if God's judgments -- which | Rev. 16:all (note :5,7)

are the 7 seals -- are righteous and |

true... 'cause he judges the great whore.| Rev. 16:19 & Rev. 17

(Which no doubt a whore is not a very |

faithful bride, is she? Absolutely not!) |

"Which did corrupt the earth with her | Rev. 19:2 17:2

fornication, and hath avenged the blood |

of his servants at her hand?" It seems |

like this great whore doesn't really com-|

mit itself to God, herself to God, does |

she? And, she probably will be responsi- |

ble for the blood of God's servants, |

because she probably won't know where | Or care, preferring vain

they're coming from. | imaginings.

|

"And again they said, Alleluia. And | 9. Do You Care?

[her] smoke rose up for ever and ever." | Rev. 19:3 (cf. 14:11)

So, we know Babylon-The-Great is a big | Isa. 34:10

whore, right? I mean, she's not really |

very faithful, when it comes to God's |

Word, when it comes to knowing God's |

Truth. And I betcha she's the kind of |

person that'll claim to be with a guy, |

and love a guy, and not even know where |

he's coming from -- that's how most |

whores are, isn't it? Just think of how | Isa. 35:16,17

many people claim they love Jesus Christ,| Mal. 3:16

and that there is ... they don't even |

know where the seals are found in the |

prophecies. Huhhh. I wonder what that |

could mean? |

|

"And the four and twenty elders and the | 10. Prophets and Apostles.

four beasts fell down and worshipped God"| Rev. 19:4

who sat upon the Throne. And a voice | Rev. 19:5

came in heaven, verse 5 says, "Praise |

our God." How many? "All ye his ser- |

vants, and ye that fear him, both small |

and great." |

|

"[And I] heard as it were the voice of a | 11. Alleluia.

great multitude, and [as] the voice of | Rev. 19:6

many waters, and as the voice of mighty |

thunderings saying, Alleluia: for the |

Lord God Omnipotent reigneth." (All Pow- |

erful reigns!) |

|

"Let us be glad and rejoice, and give | 12. The Marriage of the Lamb.

honor to him: for the marriage of the | Rev. 19:7

Lamb", (which we learned about in Psalm | Psa. 45:15

45), "is come." So here we see that in | Rom. 7:4

Psalm 45, the Lamb only has to destroy | Hos. 2:18-23

his enemies. And who are his enemies? | Rev. 19:15,21

Those who do not believe the Word of God.|

|

Now, if a person never had a chance to | 13. Mitigating Circumstances.

know -- you've got to forgive 'em -- for | Luke 23:34

they don't know what they do. But should | Mat. 5:44-45

anybody dare try to go against the Truth |

of God, and try to hurt Christ, because | Rev. 22:11

they know not, and refuse to know, well | Who of us can judge?

then, we're talking somethin' serious. | Who's worthy?

|

"Let us be glad [and rejoice,] and give | 14. Getting Ready.

honour to him: for the marriage of the | Rev. 19:7

Lamb is come, and his wife has made | Rom. 7:4

herself ready." How do you think that |

girl in Psalms 45 made herself ready? Do | By putting on the gown?

you think she made herself ready by deny-|

ing God on the throne? By denying the |

importance of the Lamb opening the 1st |

seal? Do you think she made herself |

ready by denying that Christ had a Key- |

of-David? Well, if so then Psalms 45 |

wouldn't mean nothing to her, would it? |

|

But anyway, it says, to her it was gran- | 15. White Bridal Gown.

ted "that she should be arrayed in fine | Rev. 19:8

linen, clean and white: for the fine lin-| Psa. 132:9

en is the righteousness of the saints." | Isa. 55:7-9

|

My friends, are you right? Are you | 16. Marriage Proposal.

right? Don't worry bout me. Are you |

right? Does your Father sit on a throne? | Koresh Pops

Does He have a Book in his hand? Did He | the Question.

give it to the One you say you love? Was |

the promise that I come, and my reward |

is with me, was that not true? For | John 3:16

someone "that so loved the world, that | Rom. 5:8

he gave his only begotten Son," do you | 1 John 4:7-21

not believe God's Heart indites a good | 1 John 4:1,2

matter? |

|

The question of the judgment is not | 17. Is Conqueror also Groom??

who's done wrong, or who's done evil. | Koresh's method for

The question is, "Who is Worthy?" Now, | examining scripture.

Christ doesn't come to be worthy above |

you. Christ comes to give you his knowl- |

edge, his righteousness. And is it not | Does what you see in the

right that Psalms 45 is the same as the | 1st seal depend on whether

1st seal? Is not Revelation 19 confirm- | YOU personally are seeking

ing this? | out Christ, or anti-christ?

|

Well, if she has the righteousness of | 18. Arriving at the Truth.

saints, we as saints, should we not know |

rightly how to divide the Word of God... |

(line upon line, precept on precept; to | Isa. 28:10,13

see here, there; and a little here, and | Isa. 34:16,17

there a little.) ...the Truth of God? | 1 Cor. 2:1-16

|

He said, "Write, Blessed are they which | 19. Marriage Supper.

are called unto the marriage supper of | Rev. 19:9

the Lamb. And he said unto me, These are |

the true sayings of God." Well, some |

people may not think so. |

|

But now notice how John wanted to fall | 20. The Testimony is The Spirit.

down and worship before the feet of the | Rev. 19:10

angel which showed him these things? He |

said, "See thou do it not" for "I am thy | Same as Rev. 22:8,9 except:

fellowservant, and of thy brethren..that | "... the prophets, and of

have the testimony of Jesus: worship | them which keep the sayings

God: for the testimony of Jesus is the | of book: worship God."

spirit of Prophecy." |

|

What do yo want to do? Do you want to | 21. What are You Looking For?

learn about the wrath of Christ by him |

riding a white horse into heaven and | Phi. 1:14-19

destroying the unbelievers? Or would you | Are not "bonds" also "seals"

rather him just come, and teach you | Phi. 2:1-11

these things ahead of time? |

|

And John saw, "heaven opened, and behold | 22. Who Gives You Knowledge?

a white horse; and he that sat upon him | Rev. 19:11

was called Faithful and True, and in |

righteousness he doth judge and make |

war." He doesn't do it out of unrigh- |

teousness. There's a truth that's almost |

2,000 years old called the Revelation. |

And men have built up empires, and chur- |

ches, all in the name of Christ. But |

have they given to their people the |

knowledge of which only the Lamb can |

give? No. |

|

"His eyes were as a flame of fire," the | 23. The Nature of Truth.

way he sees with 7 eyes -- really burns. | Rev. 19:12

"And on his head were many crowns." He |

takes those from the kings of the Earth, | Rev. 4:10,11 21:24

you know. And he "had a name written, |

that no man knew, but he himself." |

|

People don't understand what the name | 24. The Meaning of Koresh.

Koresh means. No one knows. Scholars can | "Cyrus" is the Persian name

not tell you. Look at all the concor- | for the sun, and in Hebrew

dances, and they don't know. But it's | is "Koresh," which is the

found in Isaiah 45. It was originally a | same as the Egyptian "Phrah"

name given to a Persian king, who over- | Isa. 45:1+

threw ancient Babylon. But there's a | Rev. 10:1,7

mystery to the name Koresh. He was |

"clothed with a vesture dipped in blood,"| Rev. 19:13

because people don't like to learn the | Gen. 37:31

truth that's not out of their own head. |

"And his name is called The Word of God."| John 1:1 1 John 5:7

|

That's why so many times Christ has to | 25. The Word Paves the Way.

be rejected. For people know not the | If the prophets were all killed,

Word of God, and without knowing the | their very blood would cry out

Word of God -- The Book -- they'll not | from the rocks of earth to give

know the seals. Without knowing the | the testimony of the Spirit of

seals, they'll do unto Christ, fulfil- | prophecy -- had we not The Word.

ling, (Isaiah.. excuse me), Matthew 24, | Mat. 23:34,35 24:28

where the carcass is, "there will the | Heb. 11:4

eagles be gathered together." | Which speaks volumes to

| patriots.

|

Why? Because Isaiah says he'll come with | 26. The Sealed Book is the Word.

a strong hand, and what's stronger than | Job 39:27-30

that book of seven seals? That's the | Isa. 11 18 40

Word of God, fulfilling what it says in | John 7:16-18 12:44-49

John: He that believeth on me, believeth | Rev. 5:7 shows the Lamb

not on me, but on him that sent me. "For | takes the Book out of

my doctrine is not my own, but his that | God's strong right hand

sent me." "And the armies" which are "in | -- the hand of power.

heaven followed him upon white horses." | Rev. 19:14

There -- that's the Armageddon here -- |

clothed in fine linen, white and clean. | And written in black & white

|

Now, Isaiah 13 will tell you more de- | J. Other Testimony.

tail. Just like in Joel 2. You'll also |

learn in Joel 2, as well as Zephaniah, |

and Amos, and Hosea, all the different |

prophecies referring to these seals. |

|

| K. Unlocking the Psalms.

|

Now let me emphasize something to you | 1. A Key-of-David.

again, when you read Psalms 1, always | Psa. 1:5

keep your mind up-hither -- remember -- | In other words, "on high,"

I'm giving you a Key-of-David now. | -- look first always for

| for God.

|

I'll share with you. Every time you read | 2. Revelations and Psalms.

a psalm, like in Psalms 1, the judgment |

is the one spoken of in Revelation 4 and |

5. When you read Psalms 2, `the heathen | Psa. 2:1

that rage, that imagine vain things,' |

they're the ones whose thoughts are con- |

trary to the thoughts of God. "Against | Psa. 2:2

the Lord, and against his anointed, say- |

ing, Let us break their bands asunder | Psa. 2:3

and cast their cords from us." |

|

You see, when the Lamb comes again, | 3. Breaking the Bands.

there's only one way to know who he is, | What's important is that

he has to reveal the 7 seals. `That men | the Lamb knows you.

may not be judged by the law, for all | Rom. 3:23

have broken the law and come short of | Gal. 3:21-29

glory of God.' That they be might be |

judged by nothing more than Truth. |

|

'Cause, notice in Psalms 2, `the heathen | 4. God Judges the Nations.

rage, and they imagine a vain thing.' | Psa. 2:1-3

They want to stop this anointed one; | <tape off & on>

`let us break his bands asunder.' What |

do you think that is? How many bands are |

there on the book? There are seven bands |

on the book. Why this is happening today,| A seal is also a vow.

and He that sits in heaven, (that's the |

Father you know), sitting on the Throne, |

He laughs. He laughs while men begin to | Psa. 2:4

make the worst mistake they've ever made.|

All the nations, from Babylon, to Persia,| Psa. 2:5

Greece, and Rome, were judged by a judg- |

ment, and they fell when it became time |

for God to make them fall. |

Now, yes, in Psalms 2 it says, "I will | 5. Children of God.

declare the decree: the Lord hath said | Psa. 2:7

unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have |

I begotten thee." Well, aren't we all |

sons of God if we hear the words of God? |

|

Now, the Psalms are not written because | 6. Warnings of Psalms.

Christ is desiring to destroy mankind. |

On the contrary. The warnings of Psalms |

1, in the light of the Judgment, is so |

that men might fear, and receive redemp- |

tion. The same is Psalms 2. Absolute |

terrible warnings are given, such as, `I | Psa. 2:8-9

will dash them to pieces with a rod of |

iron,' right? We know that Christ would |

never want to do that. |

|

But, finally, it comes to a time when | 7. The Time for Judgment.

judgment must begin. Clearly, it says |

`Now therefore be ye wise, ye kings of | Psa. 2:10

the earth, be instructed ye judges of |

the earth. "Serve the Lord with fear, | Psa. 2:11

rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, | Psa. 2:12

lest he be angry, and ye perish from the |

way, when his wrath is kindled but a |

little. Blessed are all they that put |

their trust in him." |

|

Now, ministers should show you where the | 8. The High Road.

seals are. I have just given you a small | There do seem to be alter-

little taste. Is Psalms 45 the same as | nate views of the same

Revelation? Doesn't that make it plain? | events; other writings of

It's the subject of Christ getting mar- | the Prophets & Apostle's

ried [and] a subject of Christ having to | likewise.

deal with the enemies, (who believe not | Psa. 1:1-5

God's Word). Does not Psalms 1 teach us |

to stand in the Judgment, don't sit in | As in standing

the seat of the scornful, or of the sin- | to be married.

ners? |

|

Only God's thoughts are holy. And when | 9. God's Thoughts.

God's thoughts be revealed in the seven | "God's thoughts" are only

seals, all true Christians should make | a partial aspect of God,

that their first and foremost interest. | better is to love God,

| (speaking as a child).

|

In Psalms 2, why do the heathen have to | 10. Heathen Rage.

rage, why do they have to fight the guy | Psa. 2:1-3

that's got the seals? | Isn't God's Word more

| important than the seals?

|

In Psalms 3, who's the person there that | 11. Many Say No Hope.

says, `Many say of my soul there's no | Psa. 3:2

help for him in God.' | Historically, it's King

| David, as he fled from

| his son Absalom.

|

How come people have to judge according | 12. Looking Beyond the Image.

to appearances of things, but they won't | There do seem to be mul-

open their eyes and ears, and hear where | tiple levels of meaning.

a person's coming from? In Psalms 4, who |

is the one speaking there where it says, |

`O ye sons of men, how long will ye turn | Psa. 4:2

my glory into shame? how long will you | It does seem to be a

seek after leasing, and love vanity?' | dialogue between David

| and God.

|

"But know that the LORD has set apart | 13. Set Apart.

him that is godly for himself: the LORD | Psa. 4:3

will hear when I call unto him." Who in |

the heavens has God separated from all |

of heaven, (a part that is godly for him-| How 'bout The Word?

self). |

|

| III. Conclusions.

|

The Lamb, who wishes to judge no man af- | A. Keep the Word.

ter the flesh, but gives to all men a |

truth in fulfillment of the testimony of | The passage actually

John: that `If you continue in my doc- | says: If you continue

trine, then you are my disciples indeed, | in "my word"

and ye shall know the truth, and the | John 8:32

truth shall set you free.' |

|

In Zechariah, who is the man on the red | B. The Rest of the Seals.

horse? Doesn't Revelation talk about a | Zec. 1:8

man on a red horse? How does it apply? | Rev. 6:3-4

In the 3rd seal, the Book of Hosea, who |

is that merchant man with "the balances | Hos. 10:7

of deceit," that Hosea speaks of? Could | Mic. 6:11

it be that man who has balances -- who's |

trying to sell? I mean, what are we |

dealing with here? Where is the 4th seal |

found in the prophecies? The 5th seal? |

The 6th seal? |

|

The importance of the seals is that if | C. The Importance of the Seals.

you do not listen, you are going to end |

up making the worst mistake, you've ever |

made, in all of your lives. |

|

We made an agreement, with the ATF | D. ATF Promises

agents, that if they would allow me, to |

have national coverage with this tape, |

that I might give to the world a small |

minute... a small minute bit, of the |

information that I have tried so hard to |

share with people; that if I would do |

this, that all the people here at the |

facility ("compound" here, as y'all call |

it) will give ourselves over to the |

world, give ourselves out to you. And |

this is what I promised. And this is |

what we're going to keep. |

|

Now remember, Revelation Chapter 13 | E. Those of the Dragon.

tells us, very clearly what our ideology |

should be toward that beast, and all the |

world that wonders after that beast. Who |

do they worship? Remember, before I said |

it to you, God said it. They worship the |

dragon. And will Christ give up on any- |

body for worshipping the dragon unwill- |

ingly? No. Just like the woman at the | John 4:2

well. `Woman, you know not whom you wor- | The text actually refers

ship,' Christ told her. | to "what" -- not "whom.

|

But now, in Spirit and in Truth, let's | F. Heavenly Perspective.

come up hither to where I come from. |

Let's believe in a God on the throne | God's not a "what."

now. All churches. Papacy, Lutherans, |

we're all brethren. But let's get into |

unity with one God, one Truth, one Lamb, | 1 Cor. 1:10

one Spirit -- and let's receive the |

reward of righteousness. |

| Analysts: Stephen Tice

Thank you very much. God Bless You. | James Trimm

|

== < end of part 4 of 4 > == (Arlington Texas, 4-23-93)