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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO
Date: 05-09-95 (09:34)             Number: 6172
From: MONICA JESENSKY              Refer#: 911
  To: WALTER BARTOO                 Recvd: NO 
Subj: Zeta's                         Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I
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Walter :

 WB> Well, here's my ideas on it. In this date and time there are many
 WB> Nancies out there, and also plenty of guys having contact. What I'm
 WB> doing is assembling the best exchanges into a group sharing situ-
 WB> ation. From it, it is hoped we can understand everything better.

I can understand that this is indeed what you are doing Walt.

 WB> In other words the teams forming and already doing what her
 WB> Zetas refused to do.

Actually if she indeed has a true alien group speaking to her it is not
the service to others as she calls them, but rather the service to self
group that I believe is even trying to deceive her. They are the group
which is seeking the DNA RNA infusion for their own race, and do not in
fact seek to help us in any way.

 WB> Somewhere in all this there maybe Little Greys.

Read the above.

 WB> I can certainly see the Hive Mentality built nicely into our society.
 WB> It's a great way to maintain order and get things done. BUT! There's
 WB> always those who do not fit in this type situation. This type looks
 WB> at it, independent of it. In doing analizes how and why it works.
 WB> I'm one of these.

Are you familiar with the Star Trek episode with the race known as the
Borg? The 3 ft version of the Zetan as well as the 6 foot version of the
grey zetan both have this same or like structure without any mechanical
structure behind it. What I find interesting is that implantees find no
way to say what they have seen or experienced in many cases so they in
another way express what they have seen. They write science fiction of
which closely resembles what is true.

 WB> You might say I'm the deprogramer of a programed society. So I look
 WB> at everything this way. This includes my part in ET, and how I allow
 WB> it to effect my life. Never saw to my knowledge of memory a grey!

Then what does the below quote mean? Were you saying it was not a grey?

 WB> I saw a six foot version in a suit once that looks awful human to me.

 WB> Yes and no. It was sooo human it to me was human. Origins mean
 WB> nothing if we equate things to what we want to believe. Humans go
 WB> beyond this planet, but I can only equate their part as humans from
 WB> Earth till one gives me reason to think otherwise. The Earth tech-
 WB> nology I'm aware of indicates and validates the phenomena as being
 WB> ours, and in use.

There are definite humanoid beings from other planets in contact here.
The inteesting thing is that the negative forces are telling Terrans
that they are here as emoisaries of a galactic police or agency for
Peace. It is not the case. If you seek the true emisaries then seek
out a true Sasquatch or a Nord. Most of the others are with the greys.

 WB> Many groups are inplanting humans. This includes Uncle Sam.

I am aware of this factor Walter.

 WB> Disk Duty has been verified by abductees who are
 WB> capable of stubbornly over riding the mind control used.
 WB> They and myself realise the government is involved.

As it should be it seems that the emergence has begun. Many is the
person whom has been approached with their own codes. My contact
(which chooses when and where to leave me help) is a Nordic. Some
folks are finding the help of the sensitives of our own planet (by
this I refer to the Sasquatch. Unlike most believe they can make
themselves appear as human as any other Terran .. all they need to
do is shave their extranious hair which shows and cover over the
rest.

 WB> Many are present here who are implanted! If you have seen a UFO
 WB> chances are things errased from memory have gone on.

I was not physically implanted but rather given a coded command to
forget which was overridden by my contact.

 WB> First visit or contact implants the recipent of the remembered
 WB> or errased experience. Indepth deep programming can be done
 WB> quickly and have a life long influence, within hours I'm told.

Even in less time if it is done right.

 WB> To be honest my latest research into this is ongoing with an
 WB> intelligent new bee to all this, over educated and hard to
 WB> follow. However in another light new things are coming out.
 WB> It's what I do.

As do I in my own way.

Monica

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO
Date: 05-09-95 (09:34)             Number: 6173
From: MONICA JESENSKY              Refer#: NONE
  To: WALTER BARTOO                 Recvd: NO 
Subj: Zeta's - 1 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I
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Walter :

 WB> Hi Monica: I'd like to explain that not everyone having contact is
 WB> stable enough to interact with those who are working to find the
 WB> truth in the ongoing mystery behind everything going on in Et analy-
 WB> sis. The bottom line in good research is evaluation in whether or not
 WB> the person is blocked, messed with to the degree of inducing fear
 WB> and denial, where safety measure discounts any worthwhile exchange.

I understand this situation. Furthermore, I know personally a person whom
was experimented on as such by the military and whom was caused to speak
to me by my same Nord contact. He has told me that I should keep in a
direct field of contact with her. He did not get enough of the code to
override her programming. However, he did get enough of it to let her
briefly remember parts of it and speak with me on the matters. On some
occasions we have had a mental link and I have seen images of some of the
underground labs she has been in. She lives in a constant fear not of the
aliens she met there, but rather of the United States Government. She has
been implanted with a mental command which has caused her body to react
when she speaks. She constantly has a bladder incontinance as a direct
result of her programming. Imahes I have seen in past contacts showed a
vast underground layout in which there are many chambers. Only those of
which were either higher up military, CIA, or those whom were ordered to
submit to experiments were allowed into these chambers. There were long
ladder lined corriders which went down from the upper base which looked
like a Star Trek inner hull ships maintenance tunnel. These led down to
huge inner chambers which were made of a gleeming metal which seemed to
have it's own inner light. It seemed to be of a metal never seen here on
Earth. at the end of this tunnel there were two chambers one went to a
military side of the chmbers and one went down even further below to a
second lower level which contained many odd symbols and two more chambers.
When I told her that I was seeing these images she then immediately
thought of something else. The next time I was able to get her to think
of these chambers (albeit briefly) she had indeed seen the replication
chambers which contained not only grey beings and hybrids in the large
vats and tubes, but also many other races being hybridized as well. These
included Reptilian and Arachnid races, as well as some race that looked
like it was built of stone like material close to an asbestoid like
substance. It was in a yellow liquid. The Reptilian forms were in a
liquid that was greenish. The greys were in both yellow and clear forms
of liquids. There were also many body parts which looked like humanoid
Terrans. The images were very strong and as well were her emotional
responces to them. She was retching metally when she saw  these back
when she was in the military. When I asked her about these, she simply
replied that I best be silent as she believed that our phone line was
being monitored by the US Military. At that point she said she was
seeing images of short supposedly friendly Greys of which she claimed
she sees often. She often tells me that she sees bright lights in her
domicile and further that her television occasionally seems to have a
face on it watching her while the set is in fact turned off and that
when she looks up to try to see whom it is that the image vanishes. My
contact has confirme that she is indeed being watched and that she is
not to be asked further to relate her experiences of the chamber because
she risks removal not only by the US Governmment, but also moreso by the
Sheikeila .. the Military of the Grey race who, are the 6 ft greys.

 WB> Abuse in these encounters bring out many types of, memory blocks, and
 WB> defense mechanisms, that are not safe in pursuing because of the
 WB> nature of their programming.

Such as physical problems that develop due to programmed in defenses to
the party remembering things without the code to restore full memory as
well as the ability to override the code itself and in effect erase it
and the ability to be further programmed.

 WB> If a researcher prods these defense mechanisms and finds a way past
 WB> them there is a real possiblity the person putting them up might
 WB> loose their anchor to dealing with the situation in any way they can
 WB> then handle.

Correct you are. Where did you become so knowledgeable my friend? Were you
military FBI or CIA. I amm starting to truly wonder. Be careful with what
you know if you are not yourself a CIA or FBI with contacts you risk the
rath of the Sheikeila. if you indeed have a protector stay close with that
being. I should not like to see or rather hear that you have suddenly be-
come missing.

 WB> There can be many maligned unintentional outcomes to this type indiv-
 WB> idual surfacing that can be self distructive and can carry over to the
 WB> investigater.. In doing research I've found through many contacts
 WB> there are some best left alone.

Particularly those risking the rath of the Sheikeila.

[continued next message]

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO
Date: 05-12-95 (01:25)             Number: 6392
From: WALTER BARTOO                Refer#: 6391
  To: MONICA JESENSKY               Recvd: NO 
Subj: Zeta's - 1 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I
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 > Walter :

 >  WB> Hi Monica: I'd like to explain that not everyone having contact is
 >  WB> stable enough to interact with those who are working to find the
 >  WB> truth in the ongoing mystery behind everything going on in Et analy-
 >  WB> sis. The bottom line in good research is evaluation in whether or not
 >  WB> the person is blocked, messed with to the degree of inducing fear
 >  WB> and denial, where safety measure discounts any worthwhile exchange.

 > I understand this situation. Furthermore, I know personally a person
 > whom was experimented on as such by the military and whom was caused to
 > speak to me by my same Nord contact. He has told me that I should keep in a
 > direct field of contact with her. He did not get enough of the code
 > to override her programming. However, he did get enough of it to let her
 > briefly remember parts of it and speak with me on the matters. On
 > some occasions we have had a mental link and I have seen images of some of
 > the underground labs she has been in. She lives in a constant fear not of
 > the aliens she met there, but rather of the United States Government. She
 > has been implanted with a mental command which has caused her body to
 > react when she speaks. She constantly has a bladder incontinance as a
 > direct result of her programming. Images I have seen in past contacts
showed
 > a vast underground layout in which there are many chambers. Only those
 > of which were either higher up military, CIA, or those whom were ordered
 > to submit to experiments were allowed into these chambers. There were
 > long ladder lined corriders which went down from the upper base which
 > looked like a Star Trek inner hull ships maintenance tunnel. These led down
 > to huge inner chambers which were made of a gleeming metal which seemed
 > to have it's own inner light. It seemed to be of a metal never seen here
 > on Earth. at the end of this tunnel there were two chambers one went to
 > a military side of the chmbers and one went down even further below to
 > a second lower level which contained many odd symbols and two more
 > chambers.
 > When I told her that I was seeing these images she then immediately
 > thought of something else. The next time I was able to get her to
 > think of these chambers (albeit briefly) she had indeed seen the
 > replication chambers which contained not only grey beings and hybrids in
the
 > large vats and tubes, but also many other races being hybridized as well.
 > These included Reptilian and Arachnid races, as well as some race that
 > looked like it was built of stone like material close to an asbestoid like
 > substance. It was in a yellow liquid. The Reptilian forms were in a
 > liquid that was greenish. The greys were in both yellow and clear
 > forms of liquids. There were also many body parts which looked like
 > humanoid Terrans. The images were very strong and as well were her
emotional
 > responces to them. She was retching metally when she saw  these back
 > when she was in the military. When I asked her about these, she
 > simply replied that I best be silent as she believed that our phone line
was
 > being monitored by the US Military. At that point she said she was
 > seeing images of short supposedly friendly Greys of which she claimed
 > she sees often. She often tells me that she sees bright lights in her
 > domicile and further that her television occasionally seems to have a
 > face on it watching her while the set is in fact turned off and that
 > when she looks up to try to see whom it is that the image vanishes.
 > My contact has confirmed that she is indeed being watched and that she is
 > not to be asked further to relate her experiences of the chamber
 > because she risks removal not only by the US Governmment, but also moreso
by
 > the Sheikeila .. the Military of the Grey race who, are the 6 ft greys.

 >  WB> Abuse in these encounters bring out many types of, memory blocks, and
 >  WB> defense mechanisms, that are not safe in pursuing because of the
 >  WB> nature of their programming.

 > Such as physical problems that develop due to programmed in defenses
 > to the party remembering things without the code to restore full memory
 > as well as the ability to override the code itself and in effect erase
 > it and the ability to be further programmed.

 >  WB> If a researcher prods these defense mechanisms and finds a way past
 >  WB> them there is a real possiblity the person putting them up might
 >  WB> loose their anchor to dealing with the situation in any way they can
 >  WB> then handle.

 > Correct you are. Where did you become so knowledgeable my friend?
 > Were you military, FBI or CIA. I amm starting to truly wonder. Be careful
 > with what you know if you are not yourself a CIA or FBI with contacts you
 > risk the rath of the Sheikeila. if you indeed have a protector stay close
 > with that being. I should not like to see or rather hear that you have
suddenly
 > become missing.

(WB) Not CIA, FBI, Government, or military. Am a Star Person of high rank,
getting things put right. Are you a Hypnotist, or a therapist? No fear here I'
m well capable of holding my own. Many attempts in the past have failed. My
lady and I live free of any fear. Doing a newsletter, moderator here, and
other things to lengthly to list. If I get to know you better we can share,
ok? Your turn to call, and the mountains are bueatiful in summer. We receive
many guests and have accomodations. Big Pyramid too, activated also.

 >  WB> There can be many maligned unintentional outcomes to this type indiv-
 >  WB> idual surfacing that can be self distructive and can carry over to the
 >  WB> investigater.. In doing research I've found through many contacts
 >  WB> there are some best left alone.

 > Particularly those risking the rath of the Sheikeila.

(WB) A good battle keeps your arteries clear, excercise is good therapy.
If the six foot grey was a Sheikeila he did not stick around long enough to
be interegated by me with my survivial knife. Actually the exit was a speedy
one, with a oops filtering back as I jumped up.

regards Walter <AKA> Kortron.

 > [continued next message]

 > --- Maximus 2.02
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 > (1:142/578)

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO
Date: 05-09-95 (09:34)             Number: 6174
From: MONICA JESENSKY              Refer#: 6173
  To: WALTER BARTOO                 Recvd: NO 
Subj: Zeta's - 2 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I
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[continued from last mesage]

 WB> Reason being it only brings out further denial, and creates false
 WB> situations that then serve no worth while reason for either party to
 WB> continue. Much of this is because the mind substitutes for what it
 WB> cannot accept, that then recreates what it can. Abuse, Rape and a
 WB> very long list here occurs in these situations that are better left
 WB> alone. Individuals that put out the classic warning signs in the
 WB> field of experiencers are best left alone, leaving them to go on be-
 WB> lieving what they want to believe. The Zeta responces were a firm
 WB> indication of this classic responce and indicated that she was not
 WB> ready to accept anything beyond her self created idea of what she
 WB> experienced and why.

I see you see the same conclusion that I see here. Also let us think of
the many with MPD which are actually the result of military and alien
mental traumatizations.

 WB> Im dealing with other folks creating substantiated phenomena I can see
 WB> that prove to me and verify what they are relating to me is real. Her
 WB> stuff is for followers not yet seeing things going not verifiable be-
 WB> yond her abduction, verifying anything. The tests I set up are hard
 WB> to fake. You cannot fake them! These are the folks that most interest
 WB> me. She is the type I stir away from. They lurk here on this echo and
 WB> can't relate to any of this beyond the victim. I've tried to work
 WB> past this condition with some, it seldom goes anywhere and I under-
 WB> stand they are blocked and not easily reached to understand what they
 WB> have actually experienced. This situation at best should never be
 WB> dealt with in this medium as the means in anyway to help them. Reason
 WB> being they fixate on the negative, remain the victim and live in con-
 WB> stant denial of everyone who questions their experience.

This is all true in what I have experienced with folks as well.

 WB> This is the only way they can deal with it. You cannot get past this
 WB> on a computer typing to someone, or see the ifs, ands and buts clear-
 WB> ly. The best experiencer is the one who can deal with whatever occur-
 WB> ed and is less traumatized by it, that can objectively look at it
 WB> without need of blocks of memory, or fear welling up and or creating
 WB> paranoia.

Yes and Nancy clearly refuses to have direct contact with people as do
many others.

 WB> My research indicates programming is layered and difficult to work
 WB> through.

Here is a clue...Usually it is a part of a phrase followed by a partially
binary and partially hex code which is then followed by a continuation or
ending of the phrase. This is how the codes are usually implemented. These
codes have many permutations. A partial code in the wrong spot can cause
anything from physical debilitations to complete self destruct modes. I
can attest to a few folks I have met that were coded. Many now exist in
Psych hospitals. If you want to find the result of military blunders at
trying to deprogram what was programmed in during visits to the military
alien labs, then check out many of the GI's whom were returned from war
in Vietnam only to end up in Nut houses. Many of these were programmed
with a code to go into Kill mode. However there were further permutations
to the codes which in my opinion were alien code permutations which causes
a section of the subconscious mind to not allow these codes to be erased
without use of the mutated code segments entered by the alien contacts to
change after a singal usage. I believe that the persons are to be used when
the Greys make their true reasons for being here public. I know that these
codes can be activated with high band signals above the conscious mind
to hear. Furthermore these codes cause the adrenal glands to secrete at a
very high rate.

 WB> Mistakes can cause more truama and even suicide.

Ah yes just as I said above.

 WB> Not being an expert I walk softly and do not dwell too deeply till
 WB> the trust bond is firmly rooted and established. Then it's better
 WB> to interact as a group sharing experiences and information rather
 WB> than one on one.

In many cases it's just the opposite. In these cases it requires a 1 to 1
form of contact rather than a group one. Of course it always helps if you
get the help of a sensitive with the cases of this tampering.

 WB> What I've heard over the years is awesome in what folks have exper-
 WB> ienced. To get to the root of it and why is very confusing to all
 WB> concerned. It is that well concealed and laced with false implanted
 WB> ideas, experience, and very difficult to distinguish the difference.

I see you have met or heard of a few of the cases where a completely
different personality inhabits the body of the person due to the implant-
ation of the alien engrams over the existing ones in part of the brains
subconscious. These engrams can cause false memories or a complete lack of
the original consciousness. I have seen a case of this in a MPD person.

[continued next message]

--- Maximus 2.02
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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO
Date: 05-12-95 (01:09)             Number: 6391
From: WALTER BARTOO                Refer#: 6390
  To: MONICA JESENSKY               Recvd: NO 
Subj: Zeta's - 2 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I
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 > [continued from last mesage]

 >  WB> Reason being it only brings out further denial, and creates false
 >  WB> situations that then serve no worth while reason for either party to
 >  WB> continue. Much of this is because the mind substitutes for what it
 >  WB> cannot accept, that then recreates what it can. Abuse, Rape and a
 >  WB> very long list here occurs in these situations that are better left
 >  WB> alone. Individuals that put out the classic warning signs in the
 >  WB> field of experiencers are best left alone, leaving them to go on be-
 >  WB> lieving what they want to believe. The Zeta responces were a firm
 >  WB> indication of this classic responce and indicated that she was not
 >  WB> ready to accept anything beyond her self created idea of what she
 >  WB> experienced and why.

 > I see you see the same conclusion that I see here. Also let us think
 > of the many with MPD which are actually the result of military and alien
 > mental traumatizations.

(WB) Yes I do. Also satanic parler games, to feed their huge perverted sexual
appetites. Lots of these poor souls beginning to remember, earlier abuse by
them. Who to say those on Disk duty don't get a lady or two in thier active
service to have as a keeper. This goes on rank having
previlages I'm told.

 >  WB> Im dealing with other folks creating substantiated phenomena I can see
 >  WB> that prove to me and verify what they are relating to me is real. Her
 >  WB> stuff is for followers not yet seeing things going not verifiable be-
 >  WB> yond her abduction, verifying anything. The tests I set up are hard
 >  WB> to fake. You cannot fake them! These are the folks that most interest
 >  WB> me. She is the type I stir away from. They lurk here on this echo and
 >  WB> can't relate to any of this beyond the victim. I've tried to work
 >  WB> past this condition with some, it seldom goes anywhere and I under-
 >  WB> stand they are blocked and not easily reached to understand what they
 >  WB> have actually experienced. This situation at best should never be
 >  WB> dealt with in this medium as the means in anyway to help them. Reason
 >  WB> being they fixate on the negative, remain the victim and live in con-
 >  WB> stant denial of everyone who questions their experience.

 > This is all true in what I have experienced with folks as well.

(Wb) Are you doing active research and regression therapy on individuals?

 >  WB> This is the only way they can deal with it. You cannot get past this
 >  WB> on a computer typing to someone, or see the ifs, ands and buts clear-
 >  WB> ly. The best experiencer is the one who can deal with whatever occur-
 >  WB> ed and is less traumatized by it, that can objectively look at it
 >  WB> without need of blocks of memory, or fear welling up and or creating
 >  WB> paranoia.

 > Yes and Nancy clearly refuses to have direct contact with people as
 > do many others.

(Wb) Neither do you?  I'm told it is basic preliminary post hypnotic
suggestion. It goes like this: seek seclusion and be available. waiting for
the next time. Can't find friends they relate too. Sound similiar?

 >  WB> My research indicates programming is layered and difficult to work
 >  WB> through.

 > Here is a clue...Usually it is a part of a phrase followed by a
 > partially binary and partially hex code which is then followed by a
 > continuation or ending of the phrase. This is how the codes are usually
 > implemented.  These codes have many permutations. A partial code in the
 > wrong spot can cause anything from physical debilitations to complete
 > self destruct modes.  I can attest to a few folks I have met that were
coded. Many now exist
 > in Psych hospitals. If you want to find the result of military blunders
 > at trying to deprogram what was programmed in during visits to the military
 > alien labs, then check out many of the GI's whom were returned from war
 > in Vietnam only to end up in Nut houses. Many of these were programmed
 > with a code to go into Kill mode. However there were further permutations
 > to the codes which in my opinion were alien code permutations which
 > causes a section of the subconscious mind to not allow these codes to be
 > erased without use of the mutated code segments entered by the alien
 > contacts to change after a singal usage. I believe that the persons are
 > to be used when the Greys make their true reasons for being here public.
 > I know that these codes can be activated with high band signals above the
 > conscious mind to hear. Furthermore these codes cause the adrenal glands to
 > secrete at a very high rate.

(WB) Sounds kinky. Have you seen any of these codes reproduced in trance by
request from the hypnotist?  I'd be interested in seeing this. Vietnam
special forces were done by the government, not by ets.

 >  WB> Mistakes can cause more truama and even suicide.

 > Ah yes just as I said above.

 >  WB> Not being an expert I walk softly and do not dwell too deeply till
 >  WB> the trust bond is firmly rooted and established. Then it's better
 >  WB> to interact as a group sharing experiences and information rather
 >  WB> than one on one.

 > In many cases it's just the opposite. In these cases it requires a 1
 > to 1 form of contact rather than a group one. Of course it always helps if
 > you get the help of a sensitive with the cases of this tampering.

(WB) Situations vary, I find it best to select whom I'm working with ffrom a
group.

 > I see you have met or heard of a few of the cases where a completely
 > different personality inhabits the body of the person due to the
 > implant of the alien engrams over the existing ones in part of the
 > brains subconscious. These engrams can cause false memories or a complete
 > lack of the original consciousness. I have seen a case of this in a MPD
 > person.

(WB) MPD is the resulting mind fix developed to hide and accept the trauma.

 > [continued next message]

 > --- Maximus 2.02
 >  * Origin: A Bit Of Light In Your Night 203/290-8578 10p-9a Only
 > (1:142/578)

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 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO
Date: 05-09-95 (09:34)             Number: 6175
From: MONICA JESENSKY              Refer#: 6174
  To: WALTER BARTOO                 Recvd: NO 
Subj: Zeta's - 3 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I
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 WB> All of which is by design to confuse the real direction and reason
 WB> this is taking place and by whom. It's easy to plant situations,
 WB> ideas, and create entities in a persons mind once they are receptive
 WB> and programed. Implants are used for several reasons. They can induce
 WB> trance over long distances, one word given can then be transmitted,
 WB> bringing up instant programmed responce. Everything in the mind and
 WB> out can also be monitored depending on what type inplants are used.
 WB> Visual and audiable!

Yep. Too bad so many persons are thinking you and I are crazy as they read
what you typed to me and what I am replying. My opinion on the matter is
that perhaps its for the best that they don't believe us for the danger
factor when you know some of what I know and much of what you obviously
know as well. I look at it this way.. should the Sheikeila decide I am a
risk and my contact and his friends fail to protect me, then I will just
move on to true 4th density existance. That being where the corporeal self
is shed and the true existence begins. Of course there is a fear that they
may capture my life force transmission to some other object. This I have
been told exists as a actual hapanstance out there much alike the star trek
Vulcan Khatra. If a persons essence gets free it enters true 4th density
but if its captured it stays as a 3rd density locked into a second density
existance. Were you aware of this situation? Had your contact filled you
in on these details and on the details where the Sheikeila are the only
ones among the greys to possess the mental transferrance ability.

 WB> So my advice is go where it feels right and explore and share in those
 WB> areas with those folks.

Sounds good to me.

 WB> Last but not least I know the real purpose of Zetas, and everything
 WB> going on.

As do I my friend.

 WB> When the time is right everyone who needs to know will be told.

Hopefully they will believe those of us whom know enough to tell them.

 WB> The time will be just before the WAR starts in the South.

In asia there will be a conflagration at the same time.

 WB> Earth is not alone in this taking place.

Ain't that the truth as any Nord will tell you. They were originally a
victim of the parties which are now here.

 WB> These events are not far off.

I guess so.

 WB> Thats all I'm allowed to say at this time.

I understand why you do not wish to say much further. May you have a good
day while you assimilate what I have typed at you.

Monica

--- Maximus 2.02
 * Origin: A Bit Of Light In Your Night 203/290-8578 10p-9a Only (1:142/578)
===========================================================================
 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO
Date: 05-12-95 (00:54)             Number: 6390
From: WALTER BARTOO                Refer#: 6175
  To: MONICA JESENSKY               Recvd: NO 
Subj: Zeta's - 3 of 3                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I
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 > [continued from last message]

 >  WB> All of which is by design to confuse the real direction and reason
 >  WB> this is taking place and by whom. It's easy to plant situations,
 >  WB> ideas, and create entities in a persons mind once they are receptive
 >  WB> and programed. Implants are used for several reasons. They can induce
 >  WB> trance over long distances, one word given can then be transmitted,
 >  WB> bringing up instant programmed responce. Everything in the mind and
 >  WB> out can also be monitored depending on what type inplants are used.
 >  WB> Visual and audiable!

 > Yep. Too bad so many persons are thinking you and I are crazy as they
 > read what you typed to me and what I am replying. My opinion on the matter
 > is that perhaps its for the best that they don't believe us for the
 > danger factor when you know some of what I know and much of what you
 > obviously know as well. I look at it this way.. should the Sheikeila
decide I
 > am a risk and my contact and his friends fail to protect me, then I will
 > just move on to true 4th density existance. That being where the corporeal
 > self is shed and the true existence begins. Of course there is a fear that
 > they may capture my life force transmission to some other object. This I
 > have been told exists as a actual hapanstance out there much alike the
 > star trek Vulcan Khatra. If a persons essence gets free it enters true 4th
 > density but if its captured it stays as a 3rd density locked into a second
 > density existance. Were you aware of this situation?

(WB) I'm aware there are two or more heavens. One only being the real 4th
density. However you and I are protected against this occuring. We are
constantly monitored by a scout ship and this taking place is very slim at
best. Not to mention I go into fourth density quite abit and have had my
battles there. You might say I'm a tough old fighting Cock. Hard to kill,
they've tried and pretty stubborn about fullfilling commitements.

 > Had your contact filled you in on these details and on the details where
 > the Sheikeila are the only ones among the greys to possess the mental
 > transferrance ability.

(WB) I doubt they would put one of these up against a Tron. But if they do it
will make the game more interesting. Trons are peaceful warriors who smile in
the face of diversity and LOVE long odds. What can I say, grin. Never heard
the term Sheikeila before you brought it up. I'll be shore to get you a re-
run filmed if we end up meeting in fourth density.

 >  WB> So my advice is go where it feels right and explore and share in those
 >  WB> areas with those folks.

 > Sounds good to me.

 >  WB> Last but not least I know the real purpose of Zetas, and everything
 >  WB> going on.

 > As do I my friend.

 >  WB> When the time is right everyone who needs to know will be told.

 > Hopefully they will believe those of us whom know enough to tell
 > them.

 >  WB> The time will be just before the WAR starts in the South.

 > In asia there will be a conflagration at the same time.

 >  WB> Earth is not alone in this taking place.

 > Ain't that the truth as any Nord will tell you. They were originally
 > a victim of the parties which are now here.

 >  WB> These events are not far off.

 > I guess so.

 >  WB> Thats all I'm allowed to say at this time.

 > I understand why you do not wish to say much further. May you have a
 > good day while you assimilate what I have typed at you.

Regards Walter <AKA> Kortron.

P.S. To bad I missed you! Wanted to energy lock in on you for future fun
and games. I work with all types and then some.

 > Monica

 > --- Maximus 2.02
 >  * Origin: A Bit Of Light In Your Night 203/290-8578 10p-9a Only
 > (1:142/578)

--- FMail 0.92
 * Origin: ** Spirit BBS - Orvotron ** (1:3666/701)
===========================================================================
 BBS: Close Encounters/UFO
Date: 05-10-95 (18:12)             Number: 6362
From: HUGO RAMIRO                  Refer#: 5600
  To: ROBERT STIRNIMAN              Recvd: NO 
Subj: Zetas to Glenda                Conf: (21) FIDO UFO I
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 Hi!

 RS> Hi Hugo. Communication from any intelligent entity, where ever it may
 RS> have come from, MUST be internally consistent.

 I agree with you for the most part. I still don't see, however, how we can
judge 'what' is consistent with 'what' when we don't understand the whole
story.
 My 'studies' in meditation have shown me that contradictions can be one of
the most effective tools for pointing in a direction that normal, internally
consistent language cannot.
In this case, contradictions, despite initial impressions, are internally
consistent.
 These 'aliens', however, do not seem to have this clarity of perception, and
seem to simply be inconsistent.

 HR> I really have a hard time taking _anything_ being ejected from AOL
 HR> seriously. :)

 RS> Me too, and I surely will never send any nickels to AOL. But, even
 RS> though a message may be phony, or consist mainly of disinformation,
 RS> the possible motive and agency of the source and messenger is often
 RS> something that should be taken seriously.

 I agree. But I still don't pay attention to AOL...since I'm quite sure that
if any fragment of truth _was_ spewed forth from its bowels, we would find it
to be behind the times. ;)

 Bye for now,
 Hugo
--- GEcho 1.00
 * Origin: Excalibur -- Hypgnosis 

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